Climate Conversation Group

Taking the heat out of global warming

For the first time in history, people shouting “the end is nigh” are somehow
the sane ones, while those of us who say it is not are now the lunatics.

  • rss
  • Home
  • Open threads
    • Climate – how to use open threads
      • Meteorology
      • Global warming
      • Climate science
        • Papers
        • Atmosphere
        • Temperature records
        • Energy and fuel
        • Solar
        • Ocean heat content
        • Radiation, radiative imbalance
        • Sea levels
        • Ocean acidification
        • Polar regions, glaciers and ice
      • Regions
        • Europe
        • Asia
        • South America
        • Africa
        • Australia
        • UK
        • USA
        • New Zealand
      • News
      • Controversy and scandal
      • Disproving AGW
      • Economics
    • Politics
      • ETS and carbon taxes
    • UN
      • IPCC organisation
      • IPCC politics
      • IPCC science
      • NIPCC
  • Opinion polls
    • SckSckSck
    • Your view of CO2
    • Collective noun for icebergs
    • Stop the ETS
  • News releases
    • February 8, 2010
    • December 20, 2010
  • Climate Realists
    • Newsletter #17 6 May 2010
    • Newsletter #16 28 Apr 2010
    • Newsletter #6 11 Feb 2010
    • Newsletter #4 2011
  • Files
    • Wind turbine failures
  • About

NIWA admits deleting vital climate files

Richard Treadgold | March 2, 2010
a destroyed hard disk drive

A destroyed hard disk drive. When it’s in this condition nobody can retrieve the information. Does this represent NIWA’s reputation?

NIWA have admitted that vital original material used to prepare the official New Zealand temperature records was deleted. They do not say when it happened, but it means that, in contravention of time-honoured principles of good science, NIWA is no longer able to verify the work done by Dr Jim Salinger.

The news came in an answer to a written parliamentary question from ACT and comes as NIWA is under pressure to justify the so-called “seven-station” time series that forms the centrepiece of their evidence of long-term warming.

The Climate Conversation Group (CCG), in association with the NZ Climate Science Coalition (CSC), published a report last November into apparent irregularities in the New Zealand temperature record.

Significant warming trend

Our report announced that adjustments had been made to the raw temperature readings, but the changes weren’t disclosed and they weren’t even mentioned on NIWA’s web site. The changes skewed the raw temperature readings to show warming. That is, the raw readings had no trend — they were neither cooling nor warming. After the adjustments were applied, however, there was a significant warming trend, according to NIWA, of 0.92°C between 1909 and 2008.

NIWA have admitted making the adjustments, they have recently released the adjustments, but they have still not disclosed why they were were made or scientifically justified them. Except for Hokitika, NIWA simply can’t justify making the changes.

The Coalition acknowledges that good reasons can exist to adjust raw temperatures. But that principle alone is insufficient to judge whether any changes are justified. An independent observer must know what changes were actually applied and the reasons they were considered necessary. Only then can they judge whether the changes were scientifically sound.

Open disclosure top priority

Considering the importance placed on temperature records around the world, and in the light of scare stories about the approaching disaster from man-made global warming, many Kiwis find it unacceptable that we don’t have clear and open disclosure of every aspect of the temperature record. It ought to be the first priority of the government agency charged with its caretaking.

The Coalition considers it vital that each of the adjustments should be scientifically justified. As a first step towards this, we first asked NIWA last November to tell us what the adjustments were, why they were made (the scientific justification) and when they were applied.

Additionally, we were interested to know why, out of more than 200 weather stations, they chose only seven, and we’ve asked them to justify their choice.

Right now, they seem to be in a mad scramble to replicate and justify the adjustments they made to the temperature record. They have recently published all the numerical information on their web site, together with a detailed description of why the changes were made at one station, Hokitika.

What an excuse

That is good and we have thanked them for that information. We have not completed our investigation of it.

The Hon Wayne Mapp confesses that NIWA lost the worksheets because they were “held on a superceded [sic] computer system.” For that, we can read: “the hard drive was sold or destroyed without being backed up.” What an excuse!

This is an astounding admission. They haven’t lost the climate data, as happened at the CRU at the University of East Anglia, but the loss of Salinger’s worksheets is professionally just as lax.

When was it lost? How did it come to be lost? Who is taking responsibility for it? Whose head will roll? A Crown Research Institute is simply not permitted to “lose” public information. They are charged under the legislation with preserving and looking after it. This is a gross dereliction of duty.

There’s more to be said about the parliamentary answers. Stay tuned.

Categories
Climate research, NIWA
Tags
Climate Conversation Group, Climate research, NIWA, NZCSC
Comments rss
Comments rss
Trackback
Trackback

« Salinger & NIWA all at sea over temperature trends Suspicious warming trend proof of bias? »

Leave a Reply

Click here to cancel reply.

Thanks to WordShine for hosting our site:
   WordShine for polished writing
   WordShine for academic editing
   WordShine to say what you mean

Hot off the press

  • NZ temperature record — it’s worse than we thought
  • The fallacy is strong in that one
  • More about the NZ temperature record
  • Sceptics query our truth – we shall besmirch and slander them
  • Mother of a hoax
  • Mass matters
  • Public opinion at tipping point
  • Insensitive climate
  • In the beginning was the Warming
  • No global warming in New Zealand
  • My precious
  • Credible source, credible argument, credible doubt
  • NOAA conducts Orwellian revision of empirical evidence
  • More mindless moping on the Maldives
  • Climate lies in high places
  • A case of the blind leading the climatologists
  • A letter to Gavin Schmidt goes unanswered
  • Real Climate smashes methane disaster theory
  • Recruiting AR5 reviewers on ‘spoofed’ IPCC website
  • Letter to the editor

Latest comments

  • Richard C (NZ) on Wind turbine failures
  • Richard C (NZ) on NZ temperature record — it’s worse than we thought
  • Richard C (NZ) on Climate science
  • Richard C (NZ) on Europe
  • Andy on Wind turbine failures
  • Andy on Wind turbine failures
  • Andy on Wind turbine failures
  • wINdSider on Wind turbine failures
  • wINdSider on Wind turbine failures
  • Andy on Wind turbine failures
  • Richard Treadgold on Wind turbine failures
  • Anthropogenic Global Cooling on Wind turbine failures
  • Richard Treadgold on Wind turbine failures
  • Andy on Wind turbine failures
  • Andy on Wind turbine failures
  • Richard Treadgold on Wind turbine failures
  • Richard Treadgold on Wind turbine failures
  • wINdSider on Wind turbine failures
  • De-wayne on Wind turbine failures
  • Richard C (NZ) on Sceptics query our truth – we shall besmirch and slander them

PayPal Tip Jar
To support what we do here,
please drop us a tiny tip. Thank you!

Thank you
To those who've been so generous,
I'm humbled. Thanks!


Click to get your own widget

Tags

ACT Activists AGW Air temperature Australia Barry Brill BOM Carbon dioxide Carbon Sense Carbon trading CCG blog Chris de Freitas Christopher Monckton Climate Conversation Group Climate profiteering Climate research Climate Science Court action Data quality Disproving AGW Energy supply ETS Glaciers Global warming Hot Topic IPCC Joanne Nova New Zealand NIWA NIWAgate NZCSC NZ Herald NZ temperature records Peter Gluckman Rajendra Pachauri Royal Society Roy Spencer Sceptics Science bias Sea ice Sea levels UK United Nations Watts Up With That Wind turbines

Categories

Admin

  • Log in
  • Entries RSS
  • Comments RSS
  • WordPress.org

Climate change links

  • Bishop Hill
  • Carbon Sense Coalition
  • Climate Audit—a science blog
  • Climate Debate Daily
  • Climate Depot
  • Climate Etc. (Judith Curry)
  • Climate Realists
  • Global warming at a glance
  • Jo Nova
  • Kiwi Thinker
  • NZ Climate Science Coalition
  • Science of Doom
  • Watts Up With That

 

March 2010
M T W T F S S
« Feb   Apr »
1234567
891011121314
15161718192021
22232425262728
293031  

Previous posts

Oil prices

StatCounter

 
StatCounter
hits
rss Comments rss valid xhtml 1.1 design by jide powered by Wordpress get firefox