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	<title>Comments on: Impressively complex. Of course, we ignore it &#8212; NIWA</title>
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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>By: Mike J</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/04/impressively-complex-of-course-we-ignore-it-niwa/comment-page-1/#comment-21912</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an idea: If a station is moved, change its name and create a whole new data series.  No adjustment necessary. Retain the raw data, as-is. If someone later wants to &#039;stitch together&#039; the old data series to the new one then they are welcome to do so, together with providing transparency about how and why they did so. 

This is the only way to protect the integrity of our empirical temperature measurements.  Raw data must be sacrosanct! If adjustments are made, they must be made forever and that is plain crazy. (imho)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an idea: If a station is moved, change its name and create a whole new data series.  No adjustment necessary. Retain the raw data, as-is. If someone later wants to &#8217;stitch together&#8217; the old data series to the new one then they are welcome to do so, together with providing transparency about how and why they did so. </p>
<p>This is the only way to protect the integrity of our empirical temperature measurements.  Raw data must be sacrosanct! If adjustments are made, they must be made forever and that is plain crazy. (imho)</p>
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		<title>By: PaulsNZ</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/04/impressively-complex-of-course-we-ignore-it-niwa/comment-page-1/#comment-21898</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulsNZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 08:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NIWA + Salinger = liar&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NIWA + Salinger = liar&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/04/impressively-complex-of-course-we-ignore-it-niwa/comment-page-1/#comment-21897</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 06:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Parliament&#039;s web site is a good resource, and yours is a good question about the MSM -- where are they?.

I wonder what ordinary Kiwis make of NIWA&#039;s insistence that a station&#039;s readings should be adjusted when it changes altitude, but NIWA have admitted not making any adjustments for that reason. All they do is compare a &quot;heterogeneous&quot; station with neighbouring stations, such as comparing Auckland with Hokitika.

They tell us to adjust the readings for an altitude change, but don&#039;t do it themselves.

It beggars imagination and it&#039;s a disgrace. But what do people think about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Parliament&#8217;s web site is a good resource, and yours is a good question about the MSM &#8212; where are they?.</p>
<p>I wonder what ordinary Kiwis make of NIWA&#8217;s insistence that a station&#8217;s readings should be adjusted when it changes altitude, but NIWA have admitted not making any adjustments for that reason. All they do is compare a &#8220;heterogeneous&#8221; station with neighbouring stations, such as comparing Auckland with Hokitika.</p>
<p>They tell us to adjust the readings for an altitude change, but don&#8217;t do it themselves.</p>
<p>It beggars imagination and it&#8217;s a disgrace. But what do people think about that?</p>
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		<title>By: CEKAY</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/04/impressively-complex-of-course-we-ignore-it-niwa/comment-page-1/#comment-21896</link>
		<dc:creator>CEKAY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 05:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just discovered that all these Q&amp;A about NIWA&#039;s adjustments are on Parliament&#039;s website  (Questions by John Boscawen MP for written answer by the Minister of Research, Science and Technology).

&quot;Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive&quot;

It seems that NIWA have no written record of ever having received or approved these adjustments. The Official New Zealand Temperature Record seems to have been written up by just one employee – who was later fired for refusing to obey instructions.

Now this Record is the basis for the Climate Change advice being given by NIWA to all levels of the Government. Why hasn&#039;t the mainstream media alerted us to this rort?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just discovered that all these Q&amp;A about NIWA&#8217;s adjustments are on Parliament&#8217;s website  (Questions by John Boscawen MP for written answer by the Minister of Research, Science and Technology).</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems that NIWA have no written record of ever having received or approved these adjustments. The Official New Zealand Temperature Record seems to have been written up by just one employee – who was later fired for refusing to obey instructions.</p>
<p>Now this Record is the basis for the Climate Change advice being given by NIWA to all levels of the Government. Why hasn&#8217;t the mainstream media alerted us to this rort?</p>
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