Comments on: Nick Smith on ETS in Auckland tonight

By: jaymam

jaymam — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:08:07 +0000

OK I found it thanks.
http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/07/dont-lie-to-me-nick-smith-%E2%80%94-1/

So, a fraction of a degree rise? And that data is fudged to make it look worse.
What the hell is anyone worried about? The world has been coming out of an ice age for centuries. And the places that are said to be warming the fastest are Canada and Siberia.
Where’s the downside?

By: jaymam

jaymam — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:02:16 +0000

Can you please tell me where I can find the graph that Nick Smith showed in his slideshow.
It was printed in the leaflet but my copy has vanished.
Or perhaps you can tell me the scale on the left hand side. Is it in degrees or tenths of a degree?
What is the claimed rise over 130 years in degrees C?

By: Richard Treadgold

Richard Treadgold — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:06:19 +0000

It went (actually Thursday night) quite well, mostly well-ordered, even without a police presence (!). I estimated the crowd at about 80–90. There were some voluble sceptics but most seemed to accept the need for an ETS or have business interests dependent upon it, such as the bio-fuels industry and marketing horticultural products on the basis of carbon footprints (I talk to people). There were farmers, too, wondering about their liabilities.

As you can see, I’ve posted the first of my accounts and there will be more to come. For now, though, I must get on with some overdue, paying work. Cheers.

By: Climate Conversation Group » Don’t lie to me Nick Smith — 1

Climate Conversation Group » Don’t lie to me Nick Smith — 1 — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:59:51 +0000

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By: Bulaman

Bulaman — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:35:48 +0000

How did it go last night?

By: Richard Treadgold

Richard Treadgold — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:21:06 +0000

That is so true, and always overlooked by the warmistas.

By: Richard Treadgold

Richard Treadgold — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:20:02 +0000

Thanks, Ray. It’s good to get encouragement in the continuing battle.

There will be new moves here in New Zealand, so keep watching.

By: ray

ray — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:58:22 +0000

“Todays announcement that the senate bill is dead should be a fatal blow to our scam (oops scheme”
should be, but won’t be… !

thanks to you all for such informed comment on our NZ context.
I have kept a close watch on all the unbelievable twists and turns of the ongoing AGW saga (WUWT, Bishop Hill, Climateaudit etc) and am astounded at the scientific establishment’s politicization and lack of integrity when it comes to climate science. So very contrary to the way science should be practised. Keep it up folks.

By: Bulaman

Bulaman — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:31:30 +0000

Forgot to mention that Smith was parroting the US congress passing climate legislation.. Todays announcement that the senate bill is dead should be a fatal blow to our scam (oops scheme)…

By: Bulaman

Bulaman — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 03:46:53 +0000

Lots of talk about “the balance of probabilities”
Fails to recognise that we humans (from Nanook of the north to the bushman of the Kalahari) occupy pretty much every niche available on this planet and we are damn good at adapting! Setting fire to money under the ETS means we will have to adapt to being poor…