Comments on: A tale of two hemispheres http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/08/a-tale-of-two-hemispheres/ Taking the heat out of global warming Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:29:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Quentin F http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/08/a-tale-of-two-hemispheres/comment-page-1/#comment-23980 Quentin F Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:00:54 +0000 http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=6356#comment-23980 THe statistical improbability of NZ warming more than the rest of the SH makes NIWA look like bozos. THe statistical improbability of NZ warming more than the rest of the SH makes NIWA look like bozos.

]]> By: Mike Jowsey http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/08/a-tale-of-two-hemispheres/comment-page-1/#comment-23882 Mike Jowsey Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:34:52 +0000 http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=6356#comment-23882 At the current rate that NIWA is reporting warming (~1C/century) New Zealand will be a whole 2 degrees warmer than the rest of the Southern Hemisphere by 2110. That's great! Invest in tourism now! Auckland will be almost as warm as Melbourne. At the current rate that NIWA is reporting warming (~1C/century) New Zealand will be a whole 2 degrees warmer than the rest of the Southern Hemisphere by 2110. That’s great! Invest in tourism now! Auckland will be almost as warm as Melbourne.

]]> By: Bob D http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/08/a-tale-of-two-hemispheres/comment-page-1/#comment-23809 Bob D Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:42:06 +0000 http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=6356#comment-23809 This is the heart of the problem. NZ should have warmed less than the global average, not more. This is why the Coalition never believed the published NIWA graph. It's why they pursued the matter over many years. It's why they became suspicious when no answers were forthcoming. It's why they did the analysis themselves, and published the results, since NIWA didn't even acknowledge to the public that the stations <b>were</b> adjusted. Scientific intuition plays a large part in any arena of science. Something didn't add up, at the basic level. And so it's been proven: had NIWA had clear and reasonable calculations to back up their graph they would have published them on day one. They certainly would have provided them in answer to Parliamentary questions. But they couldn't. They are having to "re-create" them. This doesn't provide NZ citizens with a sense of confidence in NIWA. Yet NIWA continue to stand by their graph, even though it is now completely unsubstantiated. Hence the court action. No other avenue exists to address this. This is the heart of the problem. NZ should have warmed less than the global average, not more. This is why the Coalition never believed the published NIWA graph. It’s why they pursued the matter over many years. It’s why they became suspicious when no answers were forthcoming. It’s why they did the analysis themselves, and published the results, since NIWA didn’t even acknowledge to the public that the stations were adjusted.

Scientific intuition plays a large part in any arena of science. Something didn’t add up, at the basic level. And so it’s been proven: had NIWA had clear and reasonable calculations to back up their graph they would have published them on day one. They certainly would have provided them in answer to Parliamentary questions. But they couldn’t. They are having to “re-create” them.

This doesn’t provide NZ citizens with a sense of confidence in NIWA. Yet NIWA continue to stand by their graph, even though it is now completely unsubstantiated. Hence the court action. No other avenue exists to address this.

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