Comments on: Whoops! Your interest is overwhelming

By: val majkus

val majkus — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 20:13:36 +0000

David I think the next stage is a ‘case management conference’ and there a time table should be arranged (such as issuing of requests for particulars; replies to those; return of subpoenae for production of documents etc and possibly another conference where a hearing date is set); I’m from Australia but things should be similar in NZ;

By: David in London

David in London — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:16:58 +0000

I have since found this is indeed the case, there is no published schedule of hearing and possibly no hearing at all if they accepted the government’s excuses. Does anyone actually monitor these comments?

By: David in London

David in London — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 13:42:14 +0000

I am definitely one of those overseas visitors looking for footprints in a coal mine. Messages yesterday on twitter implied the case was finished, but my checks since only show the NIWA defence ie ‘It’s not official and shouldn’t be used for the public so not required to be accurate’ (yes, and the cheque’s in the post…) but it seems they confused the defence with the decision. As a law graduate I know about judicial review and the like and am assuming the two sides have now both deposited their cases (which I would have expected not to be revealed until the case was heard, but this isn’t my local system) for hearing at a (much) later date. Am I correct in guessing the two sides have now completed their depositions and now awaiting a hearing date to be announced?

By: Ron

Ron — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:15:47 +0000

But even that warming seems to be the result of the infamous adjustments!
Barry Brill wrote some good summaries on Quadrant
http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2010/05/crisis-in-new-zealand-climatology
http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2010/06/nz-climate-crisis-gets-worse

original NZCSC paper:
http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/docs/awfw/are-we-feeling-warmer-yet.htm

By: val majkus

val majkus — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:05:18 +0000

FROM NIWA’S SITE
http://www.niwa.co.nz/our-science/climate/news/all/nz-temp-record
NZ temperature record
Home › Our Science › Climate › Climate – News › NZ temperature record
There are many lines of evidence showing that NZ has warmed during the past century. These include the “seven station” temperature series, the “eleven station” temperature series, and information from ship measurements of sea-surface temperatures and marine night-time air temperatures over the oceans around NZ.

‘Eleven-station’ series temperature data ‘Seven-station’ series temperature dataWhy climate data sometimes need to be adjusted
July 20, 2010

‘Seven-station’ series
NIWA’s ‘seven-station’ temperature series uses temperature measurements from seven ‘climate stations’. The locations were chosen because they provide a representative geographical spread across NZ and have reliable records dating back at least to the early 1900s. The trend over the past 100 years (1909-2008) is warming of 0.9 ºC.

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‘Eleven-station’ series

This series comprises a set of eleven stations spanning New Zealand where there have been no significant site moves for many decades. The data used in this series are raw (unadjusted) – no adjustments are required because the measuring sites have not moved significantly. There is a warming trend over the 77 year period 1931-2008 of close to 1 ºC.

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The above are taken from the NIWA site;
for your interest only to show how small the alleged warming is

By: Richard C

Richard C — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 05:43:17 +0000

“I’m sorry we let you down
Our local supporters found it informative, but they’ve been following events more closely. For those who haven’t been so close it was very frustrating.”

No, you didn’t let anyone down. You are at the forefront globally in this case and you cannot let external pressures (no matter how eminent) damage the prospects of a favourable outcome.

If that means a communications glitch here and there – so be it.

“Pretty busy right now
On a personal note: I must earn a living,”

Exactly.