Comments on: Official: it’s the money, not the environment

By: Climate Conversation Group » Resistance to climate scam thriving

Climate Conversation Group » Resistance to climate scam thriving — Sun, 12 Dec 2010 05:35:12 +0000

[...] people are waking up to the fact that, in the words of senior IPCC official, Ottmar Edenhofer, we must “free ourselves from the illusion” that international [...]

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:17:02 +0000

On a similar vein, Andrew Bolt explores some of the ideas of Clive Hamilton

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/hamilton_the_green_totalitarians

By: Richard C (NZ)

Richard C (NZ) — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:01:10 +0000

It is clear now, that climatologists using the sub-standard science of AGW were merely useful idiots to the totalitarian cause except for the likes of James Hansen et al that know full well the big pseudo-green world governance picture.

When we look at the most thorough AGW debunkings at the core of the issue (radiation) we find physicists i.e. people who know a great deal more about radiation than climatologists.

The engineers from Lockheed’s Advanced Design and Skunk Works new a bit about physics and it was they that produced the F-117 Stealth Fighter working with these concepts:-

* Diffraction
* Radar absorption
* traveling waves; surface propagation and re-radiation
* multiple scattering and diffusion

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Stealth

http://www.f117reunion.org/f117_history.htm

So how do climatologists deal with radiation “scattering” for example? They don’t. The T&F energy budget portrays energy in it’s various forms as nice clean vectors with arrowheads but radiation does not behave like that in the real world.

A stealth fighter designed by climatologists using the science of AGW would look like a blimp.

But now there’s no point debunking AGW science anymore because the truth has been exposed to plain view. It’s not about science or physics or environmental concerns; that charade was merely a vehicle for UN Agenda 21, globally centralized control, socialist wealth re-distribution and de-industrialization of advanced economies. Carbon, innocent of any wrong doing, is the Trojan horse.

Anyone now under any delusion that reducing carbon footprints is environmentally altruistic really needs to take a long hard look at the totalitarian aspirations of the CAGW promoters now that we finally get some truth from Professor Dr Ottmar Edenhofer, a German economist and senior IPCC official.

It is no coincidence that this man is a German. History shows us the mindset of many of his countrymen and now “climate science deniers” are the new Jews that must be branded and exterminated (we have proof for anyone wishing to question this statement).

By: Andy

Andy — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:46:20 +0000

Great tip Richard. Google Reader makes reading comments a lot easier!

By: Richard C (NZ)

Richard C (NZ) — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:30:08 +0000

Genuine environmentalists should realize now that this is diverting resources from real pollution mitigation efforts.

Also I recommend subscribing to this blog via Google Reader rss comments feed above. 20 comments in expanded view, 60 in list view – brilliant, opens comment in new tab.

(Similar comment in spam queue so maybe this will go through)

By: Andy

Andy — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:17:01 +0000

Rich west?

EMU and EU “close to collapse”, according to a commentator on Radio NZ this morning.

The UN had better get in quick while there is still a functioning world economy left.

By: Alexander K

Alexander K — Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:35:55 +0000

Scary, isn’t it! But at least their agenda is now out on the table and in plain sight where we can see that it has nothing to do with ‘saving the world’ or anything remotely connected with the atmosphere or warming. It is Marxism, simple and evil, which failed wherever it was tried and whoever it was tried on, but like a vampire, keeps getting up from its grave eager to suck all the money from us evil industrial-economy Westerners and ‘redistribute’ that money to people like their noble ‘Marxist freedom fighter’ Mugabe and his fellow thugs who have impoverished their own nations while enriching themselves.
And does the average journo working in the MSM do anything to reveal this calumny – nah, too lazy, too keen on a quiet and well-rewarded job; there’s all this stuff for cutting and pasting that keeps on arriving from Greenpeace, WWF and other alarmist purveyors of junk science. Nah, its probly more than me job’s worth to think.
‘Jobsworth’ is right!