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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>By: neil</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/christmas-blessings-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-33730</link>
		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 11:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely OT
Hello from Christchurch and happy seasonals
I know it is interesting to follow the various AGW blog sites such as this one
Just now it is rather hard to concentrate an many of the issues when we are gettig wacked with a decent earthquake every hour or two 
Last one was 4.4 right under us and very shallow.
I can tell you that this got me out of my computer chair very quickly at 0010 hrs
regards Neil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely OT<br />
Hello from Christchurch and happy seasonals<br />
I know it is interesting to follow the various AGW blog sites such as this one<br />
Just now it is rather hard to concentrate an many of the issues when we are gettig wacked with a decent earthquake every hour or two<br />
Last one was 4.4 right under us and very shallow.<br />
I can tell you that this got me out of my computer chair very quickly at 0010 hrs<br />
regards Neil</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Treadgold</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/christmas-blessings-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-33713</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Dec 2010 08:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Lisa. Best wishes to you for 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Lisa. Best wishes to you for 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Jowsey</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/christmas-blessings-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-33588</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Jowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 08:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Jowsey</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/christmas-blessings-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-33585</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Jowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second that!</description>
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		<title>By: Lisa G in NZ</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/christmas-blessings-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-33550</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa G in NZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 23:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Richard ...
congratulations on your recent BIG WIN over NIWA and their recreating of their graph/stats showing that:  

“NIWA makes the huge admission that New Zealand has experienced hardly any warming during the last half-century. For all their talk about warming, for all their rushed invention of the “Eleven-Station Series” to prove warming, this new series shows that no warming has occurred here since about 1960. Almost all the warming took place from 1940-60, when the IPCC says that the effect of CO2 concentrations was trivial. Indeed, global temperatures were falling during that period.&quot;  

(you of course know its from: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC1012/S00054/climate-science-coalition-vindicated.htm)

AWESOME AND GREAT WORK getting the truth out there.  The NZ public needs to know!  

cheers from Lisa G :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Richard &#8230;<br />
congratulations on your recent BIG WIN over NIWA and their recreating of their graph/stats showing that:  </p>
<p>“NIWA makes the huge admission that New Zealand has experienced hardly any warming during the last half-century. For all their talk about warming, for all their rushed invention of the “Eleven-Station Series” to prove warming, this new series shows that no warming has occurred here since about 1960. Almost all the warming took place from 1940-60, when the IPCC says that the effect of CO2 concentrations was trivial. Indeed, global temperatures were falling during that period.&#8221;  </p>
<p>(you of course know its from: <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC1012/S00054/climate-science-coalition-vindicated.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC1012/S00054/climate-science-coalition-vindicated.htm</a>)</p>
<p>AWESOME AND GREAT WORK getting the truth out there.  The NZ public needs to know!  </p>
<p>cheers from Lisa G <img src='http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: val majkus</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/christmas-blessings-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-33497</link>
		<dc:creator>val majkus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 08:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard that&#039;s quite funny - I wondered myself how Christmass blessings turned into an ETS discussion; until I realised I&#039;d contributed to it with George Monbiot&#039;s search for the missing hot spot

So I laughed; the most important thing is to keep on track

And appropo of that http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/home/8358-new-zealand-climate-scientists-admit-to-faking-temperatures-the-actual-temps-show-little-warming-over-last-50-years?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+climatechangefraud%2FnkcO+%28Climate+Change+Dispatch+news%29
and 
http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/home/8355-british-police-climategate-criminal-case-is-global-and-ongoing?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+climatechangefraud%2FnkcO+%28Climate+Change+Dispatch+news%29

Cheers to all; RichardC you&#039;re right in respect to fossil fuel and trust your enquiring mind to pick it up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard that&#8217;s quite funny &#8211; I wondered myself how Christmass blessings turned into an ETS discussion; until I realised I&#8217;d contributed to it with George Monbiot&#8217;s search for the missing hot spot</p>
<p>So I laughed; the most important thing is to keep on track</p>
<p>And appropo of that <a href="http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/home/8358-new-zealand-climate-scientists-admit-to-faking-temperatures-the-actual-temps-show-little-warming-over-last-50-years?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+climatechangefraud%2FnkcO+%28Climate+Change+Dispatch+news%29" rel="nofollow">http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/home/8358-new-zealand-climate-scientists-admit-to-faking-temperatures-the-actual-temps-show-little-warming-over-last-50-years?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+climatechangefraud%2FnkcO+%28Climate+Change+Dispatch+news%29</a><br />
and<br />
<a href="http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/home/8355-british-police-climategate-criminal-case-is-global-and-ongoing?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+climatechangefraud%2FnkcO+%28Climate+Change+Dispatch+news%29" rel="nofollow">http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/home/8355-british-police-climategate-criminal-case-is-global-and-ongoing?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+climatechangefraud%2FnkcO+%28Climate+Change+Dispatch+news%29</a></p>
<p>Cheers to all; RichardC you&#8217;re right in respect to fossil fuel and trust your enquiring mind to pick it up</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/christmas-blessings-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-33479</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 05:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just doing the homework that Nick Smith tried to foil.

We haven&#039;t forgotten Christmas and I for one am grateful that we have the freedom to celebrate it.

Iraqi Christians have been told to keep quiet about it to avoid endangering lives.

I bet though that you have not got an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thelifefiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/xmas.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;11 million dollar Christmas tree&lt;/a&gt; RT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just doing the homework that Nick Smith tried to foil.</p>
<p>We haven&#8217;t forgotten Christmas and I for one am grateful that we have the freedom to celebrate it.</p>
<p>Iraqi Christians have been told to keep quiet about it to avoid endangering lives.</p>
<p>I bet though that you have not got an <a href="http://www.thelifefiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/xmas.jpg" rel="nofollow">11 million dollar Christmas tree</a> RT.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/christmas-blessings-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-33477</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 05:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALL of section 160 (5) as per the pdf that Richard T has provided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALL of section 160 (5) as per the pdf that Richard T has provided.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Treadgold</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/christmas-blessings-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-33476</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 05:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must be far too liberal. How can you men turn a brief Christmas message into a discussion of the ETS review? Is Christmas too emotional for you? Can&#039;t take it, huh?

Next year we&#039;ll see changes, believe you me — there&#039;ll be many more Christmas messages, and we&#039;ll see how you deal with those ones!

:&gt;) 

Happy New Year, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must be far too liberal. How can you men turn a brief Christmas message into a discussion of the ETS review? Is Christmas too emotional for you? Can&#8217;t take it, huh?</p>
<p>Next year we&#8217;ll see changes, believe you me — there&#8217;ll be many more Christmas messages, and we&#8217;ll see how you deal with those ones!</p>
<p>:>) </p>
<p>Happy New Year, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/christmas-blessings-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-33475</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 05:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2011 review seems to be an &quot;allocation review&quot; 160 (3) (a) (i) and 5 (j)

5 (j)
whether changes to the provision of any allocation to industry or agriculture under subpart 2 are necessary or desirable, having regard to—
    *
      (i) whether New Zealand has undertaken, or is expected to undertake, any international obligations with respect to its emissions and removals that are different from, or additional to, any international obligations that New Zealand had undertaken when this section came into force, or since the last review under this section; and
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      (ii) the stringency of any of the international obligations specified in subparagraph (i); and
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      (iii) any change proposed to the activities listed in Schedule 3 or 4 following consideration of the matters specified in paragraph (i); and
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      (iv) the relative climate change obligations and emissions policies of New Zealand&#039;s trade competitors and trading partners; and
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      (v) any significant changes in emissions mitigation technology; and
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      (vi) the cost to the taxpayer and the economy of providing free allocation under subpart 2; and</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2011 review seems to be an &#8220;allocation review&#8221; 160 (3) (a) (i) and 5 (j)</p>
<p>5 (j)<br />
whether changes to the provision of any allocation to industry or agriculture under subpart 2 are necessary or desirable, having regard to—<br />
    *<br />
      (i) whether New Zealand has undertaken, or is expected to undertake, any international obligations with respect to its emissions and removals that are different from, or additional to, any international obligations that New Zealand had undertaken when this section came into force, or since the last review under this section; and<br />
    *<br />
      (ii) the stringency of any of the international obligations specified in subparagraph (i); and<br />
    *<br />
      (iii) any change proposed to the activities listed in Schedule 3 or 4 following consideration of the matters specified in paragraph (i); and<br />
    *<br />
      (iv) the relative climate change obligations and emissions policies of New Zealand&#8217;s trade competitors and trading partners; and<br />
    *<br />
      (v) any significant changes in emissions mitigation technology; and<br />
    *<br />
      (vi) the cost to the taxpayer and the economy of providing free allocation under subpart 2; and</p>
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