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		<title>By: val majkus</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/goodbye-to-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-31895</link>
		<dc:creator>val majkus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of course no MSM reports, the headlines are Oprah, Assenge and the floods; I suspect a lot of visitors at Jo Nova&#039;s blog have also written to elected representatives; the problem is as usual getting MSM coverage  - maybe I should leak it to Wikileaks!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course no MSM reports, the headlines are Oprah, Assenge and the floods; I suspect a lot of visitors at Jo Nova&#8217;s blog have also written to elected representatives; the problem is as usual getting MSM coverage  &#8211; maybe I should leak it to Wikileaks!!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Treadgold</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/goodbye-to-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-31892</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good on you, Val. Nice job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good on you, Val. Nice job.</p>
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		<title>By: val majkus</title>
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		<dc:creator>val majkus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;ve sent an e mail to all Aust Federal Politicians urging them to not permit Australia to become involved in that agreement.  I copied what I  thought were Lord Monkton&#039;s major points and ended by saying 

The Australian reported yesterday that AUSTRALIA yesterday announced climate change assistance for Indonesia as it urged UN-led talks in Mexico to move beyond process disputes and make progress.  Australia today said it was allocating $45 million for Indonesia, largely to help the neighbouring country set up measures for efforts to save forests – a major way to offset industrial pollution.  The funding is part of a $599 million package Australia earlier announced as part of “fast-track” funding – the climate assistance which wealthy nations have pledged to offer developing countries immediately.

Why is Australia even considering proceeding with this global warming alarmist charade and in the process losing our sovereignty?  More than 1,000 dissenting scientists (updates previous 700 scientist report) from around the globe have now challenged man-made global warming claims made by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore. This new 2010 321-page Climate Depot Special Report -- updated from the 2007 groundbreaking U.S. Senate Report of over 400 scientists who voiced skepticism about the so-called global warming “consensus” -- features the skeptical voices of over 1,000 international scientists, including many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN IPCC. This updated 2010 report includes a dramatic increase of over 300 additional (and growing) scientists and climate researchers since the last update in March 2009. This report&#039;s release coincides with the 2010 UN global warming summit in being held in Cancun.
Only 52 Scientists Participated in UN IPCC Summary 
The notion of &quot;hundreds&quot; or &quot;thousands&quot; of UN scientists agreeing to a scientific statement does not hold up to scrutiny. Those 52 scientists who participated in the 2007 IPCC Summary for Policymakers had to adhere to the wishes of the UN political leaders and delegates in a process described as more closely resembling a political party&#039;s convention platform battle, not a scientific process.

See the paper with links at http://www.climatedepot.com/a/9035/SPECIAL-REPORT-More-Than-1000-International-Scientists-Dissent-Over-ManMade-Global-Warming-Claims--Challenge-UN-IPCC--Gore

There is no science underpinning the anthropogenic global warming alarm.  In addition we owe about $176 billion – where is the money coming from – are we going to borrow it from China to try to prove ourselves so far as the UN is concerned.  The Government’s first concern and the first concern of all our elected representatives is to Australia’s citizens.  

I urge you not to allow Australia to become a participant to the process urged by the UN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;ve sent an e mail to all Aust Federal Politicians urging them to not permit Australia to become involved in that agreement.  I copied what I  thought were Lord Monkton&#8217;s major points and ended by saying </p>
<p>The Australian reported yesterday that AUSTRALIA yesterday announced climate change assistance for Indonesia as it urged UN-led talks in Mexico to move beyond process disputes and make progress.  Australia today said it was allocating $45 million for Indonesia, largely to help the neighbouring country set up measures for efforts to save forests – a major way to offset industrial pollution.  The funding is part of a $599 million package Australia earlier announced as part of “fast-track” funding – the climate assistance which wealthy nations have pledged to offer developing countries immediately.</p>
<p>Why is Australia even considering proceeding with this global warming alarmist charade and in the process losing our sovereignty?  More than 1,000 dissenting scientists (updates previous 700 scientist report) from around the globe have now challenged man-made global warming claims made by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore. This new 2010 321-page Climate Depot Special Report &#8212; updated from the 2007 groundbreaking U.S. Senate Report of over 400 scientists who voiced skepticism about the so-called global warming “consensus” &#8212; features the skeptical voices of over 1,000 international scientists, including many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN IPCC. This updated 2010 report includes a dramatic increase of over 300 additional (and growing) scientists and climate researchers since the last update in March 2009. This report&#8217;s release coincides with the 2010 UN global warming summit in being held in Cancun.<br />
Only 52 Scientists Participated in UN IPCC Summary<br />
The notion of &#8220;hundreds&#8221; or &#8220;thousands&#8221; of UN scientists agreeing to a scientific statement does not hold up to scrutiny. Those 52 scientists who participated in the 2007 IPCC Summary for Policymakers had to adhere to the wishes of the UN political leaders and delegates in a process described as more closely resembling a political party&#8217;s convention platform battle, not a scientific process.</p>
<p>See the paper with links at <a href="http://www.climatedepot.com/a/9035/SPECIAL-REPORT-More-Than-1000-International-Scientists-Dissent-Over-ManMade-Global-Warming-Claims--Challenge-UN-IPCC--Gore" rel="nofollow">http://www.climatedepot.com/a/9035/SPECIAL-REPORT-More-Than-1000-International-Scientists-Dissent-Over-ManMade-Global-Warming-Claims&#8211;Challenge-UN-IPCC&#8211;Gore</a></p>
<p>There is no science underpinning the anthropogenic global warming alarm.  In addition we owe about $176 billion – where is the money coming from – are we going to borrow it from China to try to prove ourselves so far as the UN is concerned.  The Government’s first concern and the first concern of all our elected representatives is to Australia’s citizens.  </p>
<p>I urge you not to allow Australia to become a participant to the process urged by the UN</p>
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