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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/resistance-to-climate-scam-thriving/comment-page-1/#comment-32297</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 17:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr North has more evidence of global warming, including snow in Damascus.

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/12/more-global-warming_13.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr North has more evidence of global warming, including snow in Damascus.</p>
<p><a href="http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/12/more-global-warming_13.html" rel="nofollow">http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/12/more-global-warming_13.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: val majkus</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/resistance-to-climate-scam-thriving/comment-page-1/#comment-32271</link>
		<dc:creator>val majkus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t noticed the sea level rising that much either
check out this story http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/9987
the scare is there but no fall in land prices on Tuvalu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t noticed the sea level rising that much either<br />
check out this story <a href="http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/9987" rel="nofollow">http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/9987</a><br />
the scare is there but no fall in land prices on Tuvalu</p>
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		<title>By: John in NZ</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/resistance-to-climate-scam-thriving/comment-page-1/#comment-32269</link>
		<dc:creator>John in NZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you noticed the Greenpeace (et a)l publicity stunts this year are all about sea level rise? 
Last year it was mostly about melting icecaps. Inconveniently the caps arn&#039;t doing as much melting this year. Perhaps a bit too much ice all over Europe and the mid-west US at the moment to bring up the subject of water freezing..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you noticed the Greenpeace (et a)l publicity stunts this year are all about sea level rise?<br />
Last year it was mostly about melting icecaps. Inconveniently the caps arn&#8217;t doing as much melting this year. Perhaps a bit too much ice all over Europe and the mid-west US at the moment to bring up the subject of water freezing..</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/resistance-to-climate-scam-thriving/comment-page-1/#comment-32265</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 08:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that encouraging Mike 

The Green Climate Fund is a different beast than Fast Start .

Fast Start was by donor nation.

Green Climate Fund is from whatever source available - global financial transactions, insurance, airline levies, antthing.

I&#039;m trying to work out whether the UN has the mandate to establish the US$100bn per year by 2020 Green Climate Fund.

See this thread

http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/we-can-we-can-at-cancun-can-we/

And this thread

http://joannenova.com.au/2010/12/cancun-in-a-nutshell-nothing-achieved-but-its-a-big-pr-success/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that encouraging Mike </p>
<p>The Green Climate Fund is a different beast than Fast Start .</p>
<p>Fast Start was by donor nation.</p>
<p>Green Climate Fund is from whatever source available &#8211; global financial transactions, insurance, airline levies, antthing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to work out whether the UN has the mandate to establish the US$100bn per year by 2020 Green Climate Fund.</p>
<p>See this thread</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/we-can-we-can-at-cancun-can-we/" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/we-can-we-can-at-cancun-can-we/</a></p>
<p>And this thread</p>
<p><a href="http://joannenova.com.au/2010/12/cancun-in-a-nutshell-nothing-achieved-but-its-a-big-pr-success/" rel="nofollow">http://joannenova.com.au/2010/12/cancun-in-a-nutshell-nothing-achieved-but-its-a-big-pr-success/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/resistance-to-climate-scam-thriving/comment-page-1/#comment-32262</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 07:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed!

BTW, Ricard Black&#039;s blog is interesting.
The comments are a bit off colour. I am surprised the BBC mods let them through

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/richardblack/2010/12/cancun_the_chihuahua_that_roar.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed!</p>
<p>BTW, Ricard Black&#8217;s blog is interesting.<br />
The comments are a bit off colour. I am surprised the BBC mods let them through</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/richardblack/2010/12/cancun_the_chihuahua_that_roar.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/richardblack/2010/12/cancun_the_chihuahua_that_roar.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Treadgold</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/resistance-to-climate-scam-thriving/comment-page-1/#comment-32255</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 07:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be well deserved. We&#039;re all proud of him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be well deserved. We&#8217;re all proud of him!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Jowsey</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/resistance-to-climate-scam-thriving/comment-page-1/#comment-32253</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Jowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 06:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is encouraging. Gotta say,too, that Richard C&#039;s prolific postings (sometimes too prolific, but always on-topic and interesting) are much appreciated.  I see RC that you are getting some in-article mentions at Jo Nova.  Well done - you are in danger of becoming a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/beyond-a-joke-1995&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kiwi icon&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is encouraging. Gotta say,too, that Richard C&#8217;s prolific postings (sometimes too prolific, but always on-topic and interesting) are much appreciated.  I see RC that you are getting some in-article mentions at Jo Nova.  Well done &#8211; you are in danger of becoming a <a href="http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/beyond-a-joke-1995" rel="nofollow">Kiwi icon</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/resistance-to-climate-scam-thriving/comment-page-1/#comment-32151</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 10:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;“The global warming scare may have been fun for the children while it lasted. But the time has come for the joke to be declared well and truly over,”&lt;/strong&gt; opined Christopher Booker in a column entitled &lt;strong&gt;“Cancun climate conference: the warmists&#039; last Mexican wave”&lt;/strong&gt; appearing in the Telegraph.

&lt;strong&gt;“What we are seeing here is one of the greatest collective flights from reality in the history of the human race,” he noted. “As western Europe shivers to a halt and our energy bills soar through the roof, the time has come when we should all start to get seriously angry with our politicians for being carried away by all this claptrap.”&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well past time, and well and truly over.

The Guardian is still stoically accentuating the positive. Unfortunately (and it seems lost on them), the positive is the same spin as Copenhagen, just different time and place.

i.e. &quot;noted&quot; and &quot;not legally binding&quot;.

And then the negative, starting with &quot;However&quot;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;However, governments failed to reach agreement on how far overall global emissions should be cut, and there are many loopholes for countries to avoid making the deep reductions that scientists say are needed.

And

Cancún represented only incremental progress.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To give the Guardian credit, they&#039;ve used the word &quot;emissions&quot; instead of &quot;harmful heat trapping gases&quot; that can be found in the Sydney Morning Herald and elsewhere.

&quot;Deal is reached at Cancún summit&quot;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/11/mexico-cancun-environment-climate-summit

I wonder what the headline will be when they realise nothing of substance really happened at Cancun contrary to Connie Hedegaard&#039;s summation:-

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;If you look at at what we have to do in the next year you can see that there is a very heavy work programme &lt;strong&gt;but it is definitely not as if we only agreed on process and then left the substance for Durban. There are lots of substantial issues that have been solved here,&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; she said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Like,

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Other measures agreed in outline included the setting up next year of a major climate fund panel to administer and deliver the billions needed for the developing world to adapt to climate change. In a concession to developing countries, this will be largely run by developing countries and not the World Bank&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And not the UN either.

Face it Connie, if the donor nations haven&#039;t released $10bn in funds for &quot;Fast Start&quot; a year on, they&#039;re hardly likely to be inclined to furnish a $100bn &quot;major climate fund&quot; are they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>“The global warming scare may have been fun for the children while it lasted. But the time has come for the joke to be declared well and truly over,”</strong> opined Christopher Booker in a column entitled <strong>“Cancun climate conference: the warmists&#8217; last Mexican wave”</strong> appearing in the Telegraph.</p>
<p><strong>“What we are seeing here is one of the greatest collective flights from reality in the history of the human race,” he noted. “As western Europe shivers to a halt and our energy bills soar through the roof, the time has come when we should all start to get seriously angry with our politicians for being carried away by all this claptrap.”</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Well past time, and well and truly over.</p>
<p>The Guardian is still stoically accentuating the positive. Unfortunately (and it seems lost on them), the positive is the same spin as Copenhagen, just different time and place.</p>
<p>i.e. &#8220;noted&#8221; and &#8220;not legally binding&#8221;.</p>
<p>And then the negative, starting with &#8220;However&#8221;.</p>
<blockquote><p>However, governments failed to reach agreement on how far overall global emissions should be cut, and there are many loopholes for countries to avoid making the deep reductions that scientists say are needed.</p>
<p>And</p>
<p>Cancún represented only incremental progress.</p></blockquote>
<p>To give the Guardian credit, they&#8217;ve used the word &#8220;emissions&#8221; instead of &#8220;harmful heat trapping gases&#8221; that can be found in the Sydney Morning Herald and elsewhere.</p>
<p>&#8220;Deal is reached at Cancún summit&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/11/mexico-cancun-environment-climate-summit" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/11/mexico-cancun-environment-climate-summit</a></p>
<p>I wonder what the headline will be when they realise nothing of substance really happened at Cancun contrary to Connie Hedegaard&#8217;s summation:-</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;If you look at at what we have to do in the next year you can see that there is a very heavy work programme <strong>but it is definitely not as if we only agreed on process and then left the substance for Durban. There are lots of substantial issues that have been solved here,</strong>&#8221; she said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Like,</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Other measures agreed in outline included the setting up next year of a major climate fund panel to administer and deliver the billions needed for the developing world to adapt to climate change. In a concession to developing countries, this will be largely run by developing countries and not the World Bank</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>And not the UN either.</p>
<p>Face it Connie, if the donor nations haven&#8217;t released $10bn in funds for &#8220;Fast Start&#8221; a year on, they&#8217;re hardly likely to be inclined to furnish a $100bn &#8220;major climate fund&#8221; are they?</p>
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