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	<title>Comments on: Record warming caused by El Nino, not us</title>
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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/record-warming-caused-by-el-nino-not-us/comment-page-1/#comment-38001</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting development.

When I quizzed Dr David Wratt (Chief Scientist - NIWA) about the 1940s warming that the models can&#039;t mimic, his defense was the Thompson et al paper that, as Judith Curry says, &quot;attempted to explain the sea-surface  temperature drop after 1945 as an uncorrected measurement bias caused by the change from bucket to engine-intake temperature measurement&quot;

That hump really is inconvenient and troublesome to the consensus and it&#039;s not going away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting development.</p>
<p>When I quizzed Dr David Wratt (Chief Scientist &#8211; NIWA) about the 1940s warming that the models can&#8217;t mimic, his defense was the Thompson et al paper that, as Judith Curry says, &#8220;attempted to explain the sea-surface  temperature drop after 1945 as an uncorrected measurement bias caused by the change from bucket to engine-intake temperature measurement&#8221;</p>
<p>That hump really is inconvenient and troublesome to the consensus and it&#8217;s not going away.</p>
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		<title>By: Climate Conversation Group &#187; The very definition of stasis</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/record-warming-caused-by-el-nino-not-us/comment-page-1/#comment-37995</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate Conversation Group &#187; The very definition of stasis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] he&#8217;s right. Having pointed out the extraordinary 1998 and 2010 El Ninos in the previous post, Record warming caused by El Nino, not us, I forgot to mention them in this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] he&#8217;s right. Having pointed out the extraordinary 1998 and 2010 El Ninos in the previous post, Record warming caused by El Nino, not us, I forgot to mention them in this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/record-warming-caused-by-el-nino-not-us/comment-page-1/#comment-37994</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that in the discussion at JC&#039;s blog linked above, the southern hemisphere temperature record is crucial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that in the discussion at JC&#8217;s blog linked above, the southern hemisphere temperature record is crucial.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/record-warming-caused-by-el-nino-not-us/comment-page-1/#comment-37993</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On  related topic, Judith Curry writes about mid 20th century warming

http://judithcurry.com/2011/01/21/mid-20th-century-global-warming/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On  related topic, Judith Curry writes about mid 20th century warming</p>
<p><a href="http://judithcurry.com/2011/01/21/mid-20th-century-global-warming/" rel="nofollow">http://judithcurry.com/2011/01/21/mid-20th-century-global-warming/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alexander K</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/record-warming-caused-by-el-nino-not-us/comment-page-1/#comment-37956</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that the &#039;Hottest Evah&#039; claims for 2010 actually fall within the margin for error of the devices used to monitor temperature, so the claim is specious in the extreme.
Interesting, too,  that a new paper from India suggests that the trace greenhouse gas, CO2, has little influence in warming our planet.  Whoda thunkit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that the &#8216;Hottest Evah&#8217; claims for 2010 actually fall within the margin for error of the devices used to monitor temperature, so the claim is specious in the extreme.<br />
Interesting, too,  that a new paper from India suggests that the trace greenhouse gas, CO2, has little influence in warming our planet.  Whoda thunkit!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/record-warming-caused-by-el-nino-not-us/comment-page-1/#comment-37826</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the scammers are working hard right now. Richard, do not feel alone.

&lt;b&gt;Climate scientists targeted for fraud&lt;/b&gt; - Richard Black, BBC


Online fraudsters are targeting climate scientists through invitations to fake conferences, often at fictional five-star London hotels.

Scientists are sent e-mails directing them to fake conference websites - often imitating the style of real ones.

Typically they are told their travel costs will be refunded - but they have to pay first &quot;to reserve a hotel room&quot;.

The &quot;phishing&quot; scammers appear to be after information such as e-mail addresses, as well as money.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12219472</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the scammers are working hard right now. Richard, do not feel alone.</p>
<p><b>Climate scientists targeted for fraud</b> &#8211; Richard Black, BBC</p>
<p>Online fraudsters are targeting climate scientists through invitations to fake conferences, often at fictional five-star London hotels.</p>
<p>Scientists are sent e-mails directing them to fake conference websites &#8211; often imitating the style of real ones.</p>
<p>Typically they are told their travel costs will be refunded &#8211; but they have to pay first &#8220;to reserve a hotel room&#8221;.</p>
<p>The &#8220;phishing&#8221; scammers appear to be after information such as e-mail addresses, as well as money.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12219472" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12219472</a></p>
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		<title>By: Why dealing with climate change is difficult (spinach tarts and ice cream)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/record-warming-caused-by-el-nino-not-us/comment-page-1/#comment-37712</link>
		<dc:creator>Why dealing with climate change is difficult (spinach tarts and ice cream)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] confirmed. It&#8217;s not what&#8217;s being said that&#8217;s important (it can be, and often is, complete nonsense) &#8212; it&#8217;s the fact that it&#8217;s being said at all, and being reinforced by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] confirmed. It&#8217;s not what&#8217;s being said that&#8217;s important (it can be, and often is, complete nonsense) &#8212; it&#8217;s the fact that it&#8217;s being said at all, and being reinforced by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/record-warming-caused-by-el-nino-not-us/comment-page-1/#comment-37711</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Queensland Gov Global Warming Forecast Didn’t Even Mention Floods&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Posted on January 18, 2011&lt;/a&gt; by hauntingthelibrary

&lt;blockquote&gt;I thought it might be worth having a look at the official Queensland government’s official report on climate change, in particular the section on Observed and Projected Climate Change.

What did it have to say about drought? Well, a heck of a lot, actually. Queensland, according to the report, was going to get hotter and drier. Some areas might see a slight increase in rainfall, but the vast majority could expect a significant drop in rainfall. Droughts would get more common.

Report: “drought” mentioned 24 times.

What about floods then? What with all the global warming heating the air up over the oceans, couldn’t Queensland expect more heavy rainfall and flooding? I looked for the page on floods, but there wasn’t one. Looked for the paragraph on it, but again, no sign. Not even a word.

Report: “flood” mentioned zero times.

You have to wonder, if the possibility of a flood didn’t even get a mention in the official Queensland government’s climate change report, how much preparation did they put in to preparing for one? &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Queensland Gov Global Warming Forecast Didn’t Even Mention Floods</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://" rel="nofollow">Posted on January 18, 2011</a> by hauntingthelibrary</p>
<blockquote><p>I thought it might be worth having a look at the official Queensland government’s official report on climate change, in particular the section on Observed and Projected Climate Change.</p>
<p>What did it have to say about drought? Well, a heck of a lot, actually. Queensland, according to the report, was going to get hotter and drier. Some areas might see a slight increase in rainfall, but the vast majority could expect a significant drop in rainfall. Droughts would get more common.</p>
<p>Report: “drought” mentioned 24 times.</p>
<p>What about floods then? What with all the global warming heating the air up over the oceans, couldn’t Queensland expect more heavy rainfall and flooding? I looked for the page on floods, but there wasn’t one. Looked for the paragraph on it, but again, no sign. Not even a word.</p>
<p>Report: “flood” mentioned zero times.</p>
<p>You have to wonder, if the possibility of a flood didn’t even get a mention in the official Queensland government’s climate change report, how much preparation did they put in to preparing for one? </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/record-warming-caused-by-el-nino-not-us/comment-page-1/#comment-37683</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 00:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I just phoned WU but they are only interested if a transfer has actually been made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I just phoned WU but they are only interested if a transfer has actually been made.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/record-warming-caused-by-el-nino-not-us/comment-page-1/#comment-37680</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 00:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if it is worth contacting Western Union, quoting the account number and alerting them as to how their account is being used.

I&#039;ve got the contact page here

http://corporate.westernunion.com/contact_us.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if it is worth contacting Western Union, quoting the account number and alerting them as to how their account is being used.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got the contact page here</p>
<p><a href="http://corporate.westernunion.com/contact_us.html" rel="nofollow">http://corporate.westernunion.com/contact_us.html</a></p>
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