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	<title>Comments on: Straight talking on that crooked consensus</title>
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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/straight-talking-on-that-crooked-consensus/comment-page-1/#comment-35983</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 19:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Those 2,500, the pundits and the press believed, had endorsed the IPCC position.&quot;

Not just pundits and press.

&quot;I&#039;m sticking with the 2500 scientists&quot; - Obama&#039;s Energy and Climate Change Czar Carol Browner.

First on the list of &quot;2500 scientists&quot;?

IV.1 Core Writing Team members
BERNSTEIN, Lenny
L.S. Bernstein &amp; Associates, L.L.C.
USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Those 2,500, the pundits and the press believed, had endorsed the IPCC position.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not just pundits and press.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sticking with the 2500 scientists&#8221; &#8211; Obama&#8217;s Energy and Climate Change Czar Carol Browner.</p>
<p>First on the list of &#8220;2500 scientists&#8221;?</p>
<p>IV.1 Core Writing Team members<br />
BERNSTEIN, Lenny<br />
L.S. Bernstein &amp; Associates, L.L.C.<br />
USA</p>
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		<title>By: Australis</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/straight-talking-on-that-crooked-consensus/comment-page-1/#comment-35910</link>
		<dc:creator>Australis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 11:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once you have 75 (out of 3,000 odd) respondents giving the answers you like, you just have to find ways to disqualify the other 2,925. Do that, and a 97%+ result is assured.

But who is convinced by a survey of people who make their living from studying AGW? Who amongst them is likely to confess it is all a waste time and money?

If you wanted to know whether astrology is a science or pseudoscience, who would you ask? Astrologists?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once you have 75 (out of 3,000 odd) respondents giving the answers you like, you just have to find ways to disqualify the other 2,925. Do that, and a 97%+ result is assured.</p>
<p>But who is convinced by a survey of people who make their living from studying AGW? Who amongst them is likely to confess it is all a waste time and money?</p>
<p>If you wanted to know whether astrology is a science or pseudoscience, who would you ask? Astrologists?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Treadgold</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/straight-talking-on-that-crooked-consensus/comment-page-1/#comment-35900</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 10:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps. But the &quot;adjustments&quot; to their sample, according to Solomon&#039;s description, showed their bias and went in one direction only — to reduce the sample size. I&#039;d love to hear from a statistician on the effects of tearing the sample apart like they did. It certainly offends common sense, but how does an expert describe it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps. But the &#8220;adjustments&#8221; to their sample, according to Solomon&#8217;s description, showed their bias and went in one direction only — to reduce the sample size. I&#8217;d love to hear from a statistician on the effects of tearing the sample apart like they did. It certainly offends common sense, but how does an expert describe it?</p>
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		<title>By: David White</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/straight-talking-on-that-crooked-consensus/comment-page-1/#comment-35898</link>
		<dc:creator>David White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 10:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like data &quot;adjustments&quot;. The sort of thing that is considered a normal part of the scientific method by &quot;scientists&quot; in that field of science (and increases the skepticism with which the public regards science as a whole).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like data &#8220;adjustments&#8221;. The sort of thing that is considered a normal part of the scientific method by &#8220;scientists&#8221; in that field of science (and increases the skepticism with which the public regards science as a whole).</p>
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