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	<title>Comments on: Herald&#8217;s editor ducks the issue</title>
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		<title>By: QuentinF</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/heralds-editor-ducks-the-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-46952</link>
		<dc:creator>QuentinF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 04:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Titan i think ..it -179 C there and all Methane,  o which one of those supposed GHGs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Titan i think ..it -179 C there and all Methane,  o which one of those supposed GHGs!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/heralds-editor-ducks-the-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-46924</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 00:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah we got that on the NZ thread. 

Apparently Nick Smith has made mutterings about the 2050 targets.
Which planet are these guys on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah we got that on the NZ thread. </p>
<p>Apparently Nick Smith has made mutterings about the 2050 targets.<br />
Which planet are these guys on?</p>
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		<title>By: QuentinF</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/heralds-editor-ducks-the-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-46919</link>
		<dc:creator>QuentinF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More insane BS!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4834615/Scientists-give-chilling-warnings-on-climate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More insane BS!<br />
<a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4834615/Scientists-give-chilling-warnings-on-climate" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4834615/Scientists-give-chilling-warnings-on-climate</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alexander K</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/heralds-editor-ducks-the-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-46846</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Gary.  Fred Pearce appears to have a weird anti-NZ thing going and has denigrated us quite unfairly and in the shrillest terms in the past.  His main beef (sorry about the pun) seems to be that we have the wicked termerity to make a business out of grassland farming in which our crude livestock belch and defecate unacceptably and are eventually exported to feed much of the world which cannot feed itself.  NZ also uses hydroelctric generation from big and naughty dams to meet about 70% of our electricity needs.  Dams are really bad stuff for Greens, as they just may burst and drown people who live downstream and may be bad for the environment in countless unexplained ways. In fact, hydro is so unacceptable to Greenpeace and the WWF that they won&#039;t allow rational folk to class electricity generated by hydro as &#039;renewable&#039; for some bizarre reason. 
 Fred is a tireless and incredibly biased Green advocate who only sees what he wants to see; it was his shoddy reportage and his alone  that the IPCC&#039;s &#039;glaciergate&#039; nonsense stemmed from. 
He is lionised by the city and university-based Left who have never had to make anything or do anything remotely practical in their lives, apart from growing a few veges on their alotments, a strange British tradition which allows householders to have a biggish back garden remote from their house; these are grouped with other alotments where strange and ugly little garden sheds proliferate in which elderly men gather to manufacture and drink strange and scary varieties of home brew.
In the rational, sceptical part of the world&#039;s population, Fred has zero credibility and is not taken seriously at all.  He attacked my country on false grounds and wearing the guise of an impartial &#039;science reporter&#039;, which he certainly is not. I cannot forgive him for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Gary.  Fred Pearce appears to have a weird anti-NZ thing going and has denigrated us quite unfairly and in the shrillest terms in the past.  His main beef (sorry about the pun) seems to be that we have the wicked termerity to make a business out of grassland farming in which our crude livestock belch and defecate unacceptably and are eventually exported to feed much of the world which cannot feed itself.  NZ also uses hydroelctric generation from big and naughty dams to meet about 70% of our electricity needs.  Dams are really bad stuff for Greens, as they just may burst and drown people who live downstream and may be bad for the environment in countless unexplained ways. In fact, hydro is so unacceptable to Greenpeace and the WWF that they won&#8217;t allow rational folk to class electricity generated by hydro as &#8216;renewable&#8217; for some bizarre reason.<br />
 Fred is a tireless and incredibly biased Green advocate who only sees what he wants to see; it was his shoddy reportage and his alone  that the IPCC&#8217;s &#8216;glaciergate&#8217; nonsense stemmed from.<br />
He is lionised by the city and university-based Left who have never had to make anything or do anything remotely practical in their lives, apart from growing a few veges on their alotments, a strange British tradition which allows householders to have a biggish back garden remote from their house; these are grouped with other alotments where strange and ugly little garden sheds proliferate in which elderly men gather to manufacture and drink strange and scary varieties of home brew.<br />
In the rational, sceptical part of the world&#8217;s population, Fred has zero credibility and is not taken seriously at all.  He attacked my country on false grounds and wearing the guise of an impartial &#8216;science reporter&#8217;, which he certainly is not. I cannot forgive him for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/heralds-editor-ducks-the-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-46828</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 07:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TV1 gave time to a foreigner this morning (Fred Pearce) telling us how we should be running this country , with veiled threats about how bad we were and our imageas a country would be damaged if we do not change our ways with carbon emmissions. Even more disturbing he fessed up the Minister in charge of Climate change had given him some time with a meeting.
The Herald will NO DOUBT  also give this interferring foreigner, space in the Herald to spew out his view on how NZ should be run. 
Fred Pearce Bugger off, we do not need your type in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TV1 gave time to a foreigner this morning (Fred Pearce) telling us how we should be running this country , with veiled threats about how bad we were and our imageas a country would be damaged if we do not change our ways with carbon emmissions. Even more disturbing he fessed up the Minister in charge of Climate change had given him some time with a meeting.<br />
The Herald will NO DOUBT  also give this interferring foreigner, space in the Herald to spew out his view on how NZ should be run.<br />
Fred Pearce Bugger off, we do not need your type in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: QuentinF</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/heralds-editor-ducks-the-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-46445</link>
		<dc:creator>QuentinF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MSM in the USA is stuffed. Read Alex Jones to find out they running for cover fast. Also Ch7, 9 and ABC SBS in Australia suck to the same biased disinformation propaganda, along with TVNZ and TV3 in NZ. Already proved that the BBC has been totally hijacked by the enviro-maniacs, they wont touch Piers Corbyn or Monkton. The only reasonable tv news show now is Russia Today (RT).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MSM in the USA is stuffed. Read Alex Jones to find out they running for cover fast. Also Ch7, 9 and ABC SBS in Australia suck to the same biased disinformation propaganda, along with TVNZ and TV3 in NZ. Already proved that the BBC has been totally hijacked by the enviro-maniacs, they wont touch Piers Corbyn or Monkton. The only reasonable tv news show now is Russia Today (RT).</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/heralds-editor-ducks-the-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-46361</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a follower of the UK blogosphere for a while now, and watched with interest the demise of the mainstream media. 

There are some good political blogs in NZ but for some reason they haven&#039;t grabbed my attention.

There is no doubt that the Left have captured the MSM and academia. Libertarian/Classical Liberal views now seem to be confined to blogs.

I know that page views in these blogs is increasing, and that MSM sales are decreasing.

We live in interesting times. Time for a &quot;paradigm shift&quot;, hopefully not involving guns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a follower of the UK blogosphere for a while now, and watched with interest the demise of the mainstream media. </p>
<p>There are some good political blogs in NZ but for some reason they haven&#8217;t grabbed my attention.</p>
<p>There is no doubt that the Left have captured the MSM and academia. Libertarian/Classical Liberal views now seem to be confined to blogs.</p>
<p>I know that page views in these blogs is increasing, and that MSM sales are decreasing.</p>
<p>We live in interesting times. Time for a &#8220;paradigm shift&#8221;, hopefully not involving guns.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander K</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/heralds-editor-ducks-the-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-46343</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Herald has had the reputation of not being worthy of serious readers&#039; time for years.  Toe-curlingly inapropriate behaviour from Herald reprting staff seems to be the norm, such as the dear lady reporter in Auckland who recently attended a staff fancy-dress &#039;do&#039; dressed as a female murder/stabbing victim of very recent memory.  She did apologise to the victim&#039;s parents, but how could a reporter with any grasp of  professional ethics, or even common decency, carry out such an ourageous act? The same lady has a reputation for &#039;door-stopping&#039; the elderly relatives of anyone who is deemed at all newsworthy, and her colleagues have been doing this for years.  As for witless and feeble comment and reportage on climate matters, well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Herald has had the reputation of not being worthy of serious readers&#8217; time for years.  Toe-curlingly inapropriate behaviour from Herald reprting staff seems to be the norm, such as the dear lady reporter in Auckland who recently attended a staff fancy-dress &#8216;do&#8217; dressed as a female murder/stabbing victim of very recent memory.  She did apologise to the victim&#8217;s parents, but how could a reporter with any grasp of  professional ethics, or even common decency, carry out such an ourageous act? The same lady has a reputation for &#8216;door-stopping&#8217; the elderly relatives of anyone who is deemed at all newsworthy, and her colleagues have been doing this for years.  As for witless and feeble comment and reportage on climate matters, well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Jowsey</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/heralds-editor-ducks-the-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-46320</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Jowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well-said sir!  

I would humbly add that when main-stream-media toes the party line and when good people stand but remain silent in the face of abject bias/propaganda, there is little hope for life as we know it.  Case in point = the recent passage of the Marine and Seabed blahblah Act.  No mandate, no support, yet passed in order to secure Mister Key the Key votes he needs to cludge a government in November.  Sorry to push a barrow, but it is a striking example of the naked king not listening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well-said sir!  </p>
<p>I would humbly add that when main-stream-media toes the party line and when good people stand but remain silent in the face of abject bias/propaganda, there is little hope for life as we know it.  Case in point = the recent passage of the Marine and Seabed blahblah Act.  No mandate, no support, yet passed in order to secure Mister Key the Key votes he needs to cludge a government in November.  Sorry to push a barrow, but it is a striking example of the naked king not listening.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/heralds-editor-ducks-the-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-46271</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire reportage of the Fukushima incident has been plagued by the lack of  commonly-agreed measures of Sievert/hour radiation which are likely to:

(a) cause death - within a short time;
(b) cause serious physical harm;
(c) impact adversely on health of infants or render food inedible;
(d) breach applicable safety standards
(e) justify evacuation, etc 
(f) exceed that of a cat scan or a long flight (or eating a banana)

It is notable that Japan&#039;s triple disaster has killed thousands, but none as yet from radiation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire reportage of the Fukushima incident has been plagued by the lack of  commonly-agreed measures of Sievert/hour radiation which are likely to:</p>
<p>(a) cause death &#8211; within a short time;<br />
(b) cause serious physical harm;<br />
(c) impact adversely on health of infants or render food inedible;<br />
(d) breach applicable safety standards<br />
(e) justify evacuation, etc<br />
(f) exceed that of a cat scan or a long flight (or eating a banana)</p>
<p>It is notable that Japan&#8217;s triple disaster has killed thousands, but none as yet from radiation.</p>
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