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		<title>By: val majkus</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/nuclear-reactor-blast-impossible-meltdown-no-sweat/comment-page-1/#comment-45887</link>
		<dc:creator>val majkus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AND lessons to be learned
Guest Post by Dr. William Hannum. Bill worked for more than 40 years in nuclear power development, stretching from design and analysis of the Shippingport reactor to the Integral Fast Reactor. He earned his BA in physics at Princeton and his MS and PhD in nuclear physics at Yale. He has held key management positions with the U. S. Department of Energy (DOE), in reactor physics , reactor safety, and as Deputy Manager of the Idaho Operations Office.
http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/25/preliminary-lessons-from-fukushima-for-future-nuclear-power-plants/
Conclusions:

The major lesson to be learned is that for any water-cooled reactor there must be an absolutely secure supply of power sufficient to operate cooling pumps.  Many other lessons are likely to be learned.  At this early point, it appears that design criteria for fuel storage pools may need to be revised, and hydrogen control assessed.

Given the severity of the challenge faced by the operators at Fukushima, and their ability to manage the situation in such a way as to preclude any significant radiation related health consequences for workers or the public, this event should be a reassurance that properly designed and regulated nuclear power does not pose a catastrophic risk to the public—that, overall, nuclear power remains a safe and clean energy sources</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND lessons to be learned<br />
Guest Post by Dr. William Hannum. Bill worked for more than 40 years in nuclear power development, stretching from design and analysis of the Shippingport reactor to the Integral Fast Reactor. He earned his BA in physics at Princeton and his MS and PhD in nuclear physics at Yale. He has held key management positions with the U. S. Department of Energy (DOE), in reactor physics , reactor safety, and as Deputy Manager of the Idaho Operations Office.<br />
<a href="http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/25/preliminary-lessons-from-fukushima-for-future-nuclear-power-plants/" rel="nofollow">http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/25/preliminary-lessons-from-fukushima-for-future-nuclear-power-plants/</a><br />
Conclusions:</p>
<p>The major lesson to be learned is that for any water-cooled reactor there must be an absolutely secure supply of power sufficient to operate cooling pumps.  Many other lessons are likely to be learned.  At this early point, it appears that design criteria for fuel storage pools may need to be revised, and hydrogen control assessed.</p>
<p>Given the severity of the challenge faced by the operators at Fukushima, and their ability to manage the situation in such a way as to preclude any significant radiation related health consequences for workers or the public, this event should be a reassurance that properly designed and regulated nuclear power does not pose a catastrophic risk to the public—that, overall, nuclear power remains a safe and clean energy sources</p>
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		<title>By: val majkus</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/nuclear-reactor-blast-impossible-meltdown-no-sweat/comment-page-1/#comment-45334</link>
		<dc:creator>val majkus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 01:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>latest update by Barry Brooks
http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/21/fukushima-21-march-update/
from first para
It’s not yet time for the period of reflection and introspection on the Fukushima Daiichi crisis, but we’re getting there. Even the U.S. says the worst seems to be over</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>latest update by Barry Brooks<br />
<a href="http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/21/fukushima-21-march-update/" rel="nofollow">http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/21/fukushima-21-march-update/</a><br />
from first para<br />
It’s not yet time for the period of reflection and introspection on the Fukushima Daiichi crisis, but we’re getting there. Even the U.S. says the worst seems to be over</p>
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		<title>By: QuentinF</title>
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		<dc:creator>QuentinF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 00:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The explosion blew Xe, Kr and other nucleotides into the atmosphere. Its already too late regardless of what they stop now. A melt down and explosion is what it is .How far they get dispersed is a guess. Already contaminated food in Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The explosion blew Xe, Kr and other nucleotides into the atmosphere. Its already too late regardless of what they stop now. A melt down and explosion is what it is .How far they get dispersed is a guess. Already contaminated food in Japan.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/nuclear-reactor-blast-impossible-meltdown-no-sweat/comment-page-1/#comment-45312</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 22:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems quite plausible that wind is an extremely risky and dangerous technology to maintain and service.

Think about it, 40 storey towers out in the North Sea, one of the most hostile marine environments in the world. Turbines blades that are the size of aircraft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems quite plausible that wind is an extremely risky and dangerous technology to maintain and service.</p>
<p>Think about it, 40 storey towers out in the North Sea, one of the most hostile marine environments in the world. Turbines blades that are the size of aircraft.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/nuclear-reactor-blast-impossible-meltdown-no-sweat/comment-page-1/#comment-45308</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the wind farm industry has seen more fatalities than the nuclear industry.&quot;

Deaths per TWh for all energy sources: Rooftop solar power is actually more dangerous than Chernobyl

http://nextbigfuture.com/2008/03/deaths-per-twh-for-all-energy-sources.html

Coal – China__________278
Coal – USA ___________15
Oil__________________36  (36% of world energy)
Natural Gas __________4  (21% of world energy)
Biofuel/Biomass_______12
Peat________________12
Solar (rooftop)_________0.44 (less than 0.1% of world energy)
Wind________________0.15 (less than 1% of world energy)
Hydro_______________0.10 (europe death rate, 2.2% of world energy)
Hydro - world including Banqiao)___1.4 (about 2500 TWh/yr and 171,000 Banqiao dead)
Nuclear_____________0.04 (5.9% of world energy)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the wind farm industry has seen more fatalities than the nuclear industry.&#8221;</p>
<p>Deaths per TWh for all energy sources: Rooftop solar power is actually more dangerous than Chernobyl</p>
<p><a href="http://nextbigfuture.com/2008/03/deaths-per-twh-for-all-energy-sources.html" rel="nofollow">http://nextbigfuture.com/2008/03/deaths-per-twh-for-all-energy-sources.html</a></p>
<p>Coal – China__________278<br />
Coal – USA ___________15<br />
Oil__________________36  (36% of world energy)<br />
Natural Gas __________4  (21% of world energy)<br />
Biofuel/Biomass_______12<br />
Peat________________12<br />
Solar (rooftop)_________0.44 (less than 0.1% of world energy)<br />
Wind________________0.15 (less than 1% of world energy)<br />
Hydro_______________0.10 (europe death rate, 2.2% of world energy)<br />
Hydro &#8211; world including Banqiao)___1.4 (about 2500 TWh/yr and 171,000 Banqiao dead)<br />
Nuclear_____________0.04 (5.9% of world energy)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/nuclear-reactor-blast-impossible-meltdown-no-sweat/comment-page-1/#comment-45306</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A rational article gleaned from Bing climate science news (I&#039;ve all but given up on the tripe that Google dishes up):-

Talk about a meltdown

http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110320/GJOPINION_0102/703209947/-1/FOSOPINION

On earthquake opportunism:

&quot;.......when thousands die, or when some sudden calamity befalls us, the tendency of politicians, journalists, policymakers and experts is to seize on the moment to advocate some radical changes. &quot;A crisis,&quot; Rahm Emanuel famously declared in the early days of the Obama administration, &quot;is a terrible thing to waste.&quot;

That this axiom didn&#039;t generate more controversy always struck me as bizarre. I mean, shouldn&#039;t it be &quot;a crisis is a terrible thing to exploit&quot;?

So here we go again in Japan, where the tragedy is literally too terrible to comprehend. The death toll, the scale — the whole nation moved 8 to 12 feet — the suddenness: It all overwhelms.

And yet the search for scapegoats and the thirst to confirm one&#039;s preferred policies kicked in almost immediately.

The most egregious examples were attempts to link, no matter how tenuously, the earthquake with climate change. Though in fairness, such naked balderdash has been far less common than it was in the wake of the Asian tsunami of 2004, never mind the riot of idiocy after Hurricane Katrina the following year (when, for example, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. blamed Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour: &quot;Now we are all learning what it&#039;s like to reap the whirlwind of fossil fuel dependence which Barbour and his cronies have encouraged&quot;).&quot;

On the nuclear backlash:-

&quot;NBC science correspondent Robert Bazell explained Tuesday morning that this is certainly &quot;not Chernobyl,&quot; but it is &quot;worse than Three Mile Island.&quot;

True enough. But let&#039;s remember that no one was hurt, never mind killed, by the Three Mile Island accident. And over the last decade, the wind farm industry has seen more fatalities than the nuclear industry.

In Europe, where nuclear power is vastly more common than it is here, the Japanese earthquake is being exploited to the hilt. &quot;If the Japanese,&quot; editorializes the British Independent newspaper, &quot;with all their understandable inhibitions about anything nuclear and all their world-leading technology, cannot build reactors that are invulnerable to disaster, who can?&quot;

Well, that&#039;s just it. Who said anything, anywhere, is invulnerable to disaster? At 9.0, this was Japan&#039;s biggest earthquake and could be the fourth largest ever recorded (it was even detected in Pennsylvania). Perhaps the standard shouldn&#039;t be whether Japan&#039;s reactor was &quot;invulnerable&quot; but whether it succeeded by taking such a beating without threatening much human life?

The damaged reactors are ruined, but so what? Cars are designed to be ruined after a major accident too. We routinely, and wisely, trade salvageability for survivability. Few skyscrapers in the United States can withstand a 9.0 earthquake; should we stop making tall buildings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A rational article gleaned from Bing climate science news (I&#8217;ve all but given up on the tripe that Google dishes up):-</p>
<p>Talk about a meltdown</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110320/GJOPINION_0102/703209947/-1/FOSOPINION" rel="nofollow">http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110320/GJOPINION_0102/703209947/-1/FOSOPINION</a></p>
<p>On earthquake opportunism:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;&#8230;.when thousands die, or when some sudden calamity befalls us, the tendency of politicians, journalists, policymakers and experts is to seize on the moment to advocate some radical changes. &#8220;A crisis,&#8221; Rahm Emanuel famously declared in the early days of the Obama administration, &#8220;is a terrible thing to waste.&#8221;</p>
<p>That this axiom didn&#8217;t generate more controversy always struck me as bizarre. I mean, shouldn&#8217;t it be &#8220;a crisis is a terrible thing to exploit&#8221;?</p>
<p>So here we go again in Japan, where the tragedy is literally too terrible to comprehend. The death toll, the scale — the whole nation moved 8 to 12 feet — the suddenness: It all overwhelms.</p>
<p>And yet the search for scapegoats and the thirst to confirm one&#8217;s preferred policies kicked in almost immediately.</p>
<p>The most egregious examples were attempts to link, no matter how tenuously, the earthquake with climate change. Though in fairness, such naked balderdash has been far less common than it was in the wake of the Asian tsunami of 2004, never mind the riot of idiocy after Hurricane Katrina the following year (when, for example, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. blamed Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour: &#8220;Now we are all learning what it&#8217;s like to reap the whirlwind of fossil fuel dependence which Barbour and his cronies have encouraged&#8221;).&#8221;</p>
<p>On the nuclear backlash:-</p>
<p>&#8220;NBC science correspondent Robert Bazell explained Tuesday morning that this is certainly &#8220;not Chernobyl,&#8221; but it is &#8220;worse than Three Mile Island.&#8221;</p>
<p>True enough. But let&#8217;s remember that no one was hurt, never mind killed, by the Three Mile Island accident. And over the last decade, the wind farm industry has seen more fatalities than the nuclear industry.</p>
<p>In Europe, where nuclear power is vastly more common than it is here, the Japanese earthquake is being exploited to the hilt. &#8220;If the Japanese,&#8221; editorializes the British Independent newspaper, &#8220;with all their understandable inhibitions about anything nuclear and all their world-leading technology, cannot build reactors that are invulnerable to disaster, who can?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s just it. Who said anything, anywhere, is invulnerable to disaster? At 9.0, this was Japan&#8217;s biggest earthquake and could be the fourth largest ever recorded (it was even detected in Pennsylvania). Perhaps the standard shouldn&#8217;t be whether Japan&#8217;s reactor was &#8220;invulnerable&#8221; but whether it succeeded by taking such a beating without threatening much human life?</p>
<p>The damaged reactors are ruined, but so what? Cars are designed to be ruined after a major accident too. We routinely, and wisely, trade salvageability for survivability. Few skyscrapers in the United States can withstand a 9.0 earthquake; should we stop making tall buildings?</p>
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		<title>By: val majkus</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/nuclear-reactor-blast-impossible-meltdown-no-sweat/comment-page-1/#comment-45221</link>
		<dc:creator>val majkus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>latest update at 
http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/20/fukushima-sat-19-march/
Last Saturday the the crisis level at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station was rapidly on the rise. Hydrogen explosions, cracks in the wetwell torus and fires in a shutdown unit’s building — it seemed the sequence of new problems would never end. A week later, the situation remains troubling, but, over the last few days, it has not got any worse. Indeed, one could make a reasonable argument that it’s actually got better.

Yes, the IAEA has now formally listed the overall accident at an INES level 5 (see here for a description of the scales), up from the original estimate of 4. This is right and proper — but it doesn’t mean the situation has escalated further, as some have inferred. Here is a summary of the main site activities for today, followed by the latest JAIF and FEPC reports. You also might be interested in the following site map
... read the rest at the link - all seems good news</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>latest update at<br />
<a href="http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/20/fukushima-sat-19-march/" rel="nofollow">http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/20/fukushima-sat-19-march/</a><br />
Last Saturday the the crisis level at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station was rapidly on the rise. Hydrogen explosions, cracks in the wetwell torus and fires in a shutdown unit’s building — it seemed the sequence of new problems would never end. A week later, the situation remains troubling, but, over the last few days, it has not got any worse. Indeed, one could make a reasonable argument that it’s actually got better.</p>
<p>Yes, the IAEA has now formally listed the overall accident at an INES level 5 (see here for a description of the scales), up from the original estimate of 4. This is right and proper — but it doesn’t mean the situation has escalated further, as some have inferred. Here is a summary of the main site activities for today, followed by the latest JAIF and FEPC reports. You also might be interested in the following site map<br />
&#8230; read the rest at the link &#8211; all seems good news</p>
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		<title>By: Quentin F</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/nuclear-reactor-blast-impossible-meltdown-no-sweat/comment-page-1/#comment-45141</link>
		<dc:creator>Quentin F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for them..
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=23764
I think unfortunately hes right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for them..<br />
<a href="http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&#038;aid=23764" rel="nofollow">http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&#038;aid=23764</a><br />
I think unfortunately hes right.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/nuclear-reactor-blast-impossible-meltdown-no-sweat/comment-page-1/#comment-44991</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone pointed out on the radio this morning that these nuclear plant were built in the age of the slide rule. (Nowt wrong with that mind) 

But it does indicate that the gear is pretty ancient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone pointed out on the radio this morning that these nuclear plant were built in the age of the slide rule. (Nowt wrong with that mind) </p>
<p>But it does indicate that the gear is pretty ancient.</p>
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		<title>By: val majkus</title>
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		<dc:creator>val majkus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>update 17/3 
http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/17/fukushima-17-march-summary/#more-4112
In sum, this accident is now significantly more severe than Three Mile Island in 1979.  It resulted from a unique combination of failures to plant systems caused by the tsunami, and the broad destruction of infrastructure for water and electricity supply which would normally be reestablished within a day or two following a reactor accident. My initial estimates of the extent of the problem, on March 12, did not anticipate the cascading problems that arose from the extended loss of externally sourced AC power to the site, and my prediction that ‘there is no credible risk of a serious accident‘ has been proven quite wrong as a result. It remains to be seen whether my forecast on the possibility of containment breaches and the very low level of danger to the public as a result of this tragic chain of circumstances will be proven correct. For the sake of the people there, I sure hope it does stand the test of time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>update 17/3<br />
<a href="http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/17/fukushima-17-march-summary/#more-4112" rel="nofollow">http://bravenewclimate.com/2011/03/17/fukushima-17-march-summary/#more-4112</a><br />
In sum, this accident is now significantly more severe than Three Mile Island in 1979.  It resulted from a unique combination of failures to plant systems caused by the tsunami, and the broad destruction of infrastructure for water and electricity supply which would normally be reestablished within a day or two following a reactor accident. My initial estimates of the extent of the problem, on March 12, did not anticipate the cascading problems that arose from the extended loss of externally sourced AC power to the site, and my prediction that ‘there is no credible risk of a serious accident‘ has been proven quite wrong as a result. It remains to be seen whether my forecast on the possibility of containment breaches and the very low level of danger to the public as a result of this tragic chain of circumstances will be proven correct. For the sake of the people there, I sure hope it does stand the test of time</p>
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