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	<title>Comments on: NIWA — show us the peer review!</title>
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		<title>By: natwit</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/04/niwa-%e2%80%94-show-us-the-peer-review/comment-page-1/#comment-63780</link>
		<dc:creator>natwit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiding something? NIWA should get friendly and share their information with anyone who requests it! Good luck Richard with the official info. request. I shall watch the space and, yeah, I won&#039;t hold my breath.
29 July 2011 [natwit: Sorry for the delay, your comment got stuck in the queue. Thanks for your support, Yes, please keep breathing, there could be a substantial wait.  -  RT]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiding something? NIWA should get friendly and share their information with anyone who requests it! Good luck Richard with the official info. request. I shall watch the space and, yeah, I won&#8217;t hold my breath.<br />
29 July 2011 [natwit: Sorry for the delay, your comment got stuck in the queue. Thanks for your support, Yes, please keep breathing, there could be a substantial wait.  -  RT]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Treadgold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 02:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. It&#039;s one of the things I&#039;m hoping to learn from our Official Information Request to NIWA for material relating to the BoM&#039;s peer review. The Ombudsman&#039;s office has just begun their inquiry into NIWA&#039;s refusal to disclose that information to me. Watch this space, but please don&#039;t hold your breath!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. It&#8217;s one of the things I&#8217;m hoping to learn from our Official Information Request to NIWA for material relating to the BoM&#8217;s peer review. The Ombudsman&#8217;s office has just begun their inquiry into NIWA&#8217;s refusal to disclose that information to me. Watch this space, but please don&#8217;t hold your breath!</p>
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		<title>By: Warwick Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warwick Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 02:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent  point in your last para  Australis - but do we know what NIWA paid the BoM ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent  point in your last para  Australis &#8211; but do we know what NIWA paid the BoM ?</p>
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		<title>By: Australis</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/04/niwa-%e2%80%94-show-us-the-peer-review/comment-page-1/#comment-51026</link>
		<dc:creator>Australis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 04:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The document signed by BoM and dated 14 December 2010 is merely a &quot;letter of support&quot;, saying that at least one BoM scientist has read NIWA&#039;s Review Report and found nothing wrong with it. This letter doesn&#039;t pretend to be a &quot;review&quot; itself.

The review itself obviously took place during the six weeks between the date of the early draft and the date of the final version. It might have been an iterative process, whereby the BoM person suggested various changes and the NIWA author debated the points – until final compromises were reached. These reports and exchanges should be in the public domain.

We should be clear that BoM&#039;s review was not an independent &quot;peer review&quot; in the sense that term is usually used by scientists. It wasn&#039;t done at arms length. BoM&#039;s role was that of a paid consultant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The document signed by BoM and dated 14 December 2010 is merely a &#8220;letter of support&#8221;, saying that at least one BoM scientist has read NIWA&#8217;s Review Report and found nothing wrong with it. This letter doesn&#8217;t pretend to be a &#8220;review&#8221; itself.</p>
<p>The review itself obviously took place during the six weeks between the date of the early draft and the date of the final version. It might have been an iterative process, whereby the BoM person suggested various changes and the NIWA author debated the points – until final compromises were reached. These reports and exchanges should be in the public domain.</p>
<p>We should be clear that BoM&#8217;s review was not an independent &#8220;peer review&#8221; in the sense that term is usually used by scientists. It wasn&#8217;t done at arms length. BoM&#8217;s role was that of a paid consultant.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Treadgold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 03:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Nice to see your keyboard again, Richard.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks, Alexander. For those who don&#039;t keep up with those leading blogs as often as they want to (me included), you give a good summary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nice to see your keyboard again, Richard.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks, Alexander. For those who don&#8217;t keep up with those leading blogs as often as they want to (me included), you give a good summary.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Dale Huffman</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/04/niwa-%e2%80%94-show-us-the-peer-review/comment-page-1/#comment-50958</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Dale Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the root of the monstrous problem of a fraudulent climate hysteria is incompetence, among all physical scientists who have looked into the supposed climate consensus, and simply accepted its theories and methods.  A whole generation of physicists has been miseducated on the greenhouse effect, or that false consensus would never have been allowed to be proclaimed by incompetents like James Hansen, who (as I have shown on my blog) should have realized almost 20 years ago, based on detailed atmospheric data taken from Venus that long ago, that there is no greenhouse effect whatsoever, much less a runaway one).

But the incompetent scientists are protected by the favored status of their &quot;consensus&quot; among the governments of the world, as well as the media.  All of our scientific institutions -- all the supposed &quot;authorities&quot; -- have been suborned to that incompetence.  So the people of every country first need to revolt against the &quot;climate policy&quot; plans of their respective governments, and remove their protection of the incompetent scientists, before we can get to the real task of throwing out the incompetent fraudsters, and re-educating the entire scientific community, and all of those who have been, and continue to be, miseducated by it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the root of the monstrous problem of a fraudulent climate hysteria is incompetence, among all physical scientists who have looked into the supposed climate consensus, and simply accepted its theories and methods.  A whole generation of physicists has been miseducated on the greenhouse effect, or that false consensus would never have been allowed to be proclaimed by incompetents like James Hansen, who (as I have shown on my blog) should have realized almost 20 years ago, based on detailed atmospheric data taken from Venus that long ago, that there is no greenhouse effect whatsoever, much less a runaway one).</p>
<p>But the incompetent scientists are protected by the favored status of their &#8220;consensus&#8221; among the governments of the world, as well as the media.  All of our scientific institutions &#8212; all the supposed &#8220;authorities&#8221; &#8212; have been suborned to that incompetence.  So the people of every country first need to revolt against the &#8220;climate policy&#8221; plans of their respective governments, and remove their protection of the incompetent scientists, before we can get to the real task of throwing out the incompetent fraudsters, and re-educating the entire scientific community, and all of those who have been, and continue to be, miseducated by it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see your keyboard again, Richard.
Why should NIWA be any different from its sister organisations elsewhere?
Northern Hemisphere sceptical blogs such as Bishop Hill, WUWT, Climate Audit, etc,  are busy disseminating information about the conflicts of interest, cupidity, mendacity and general bentness of some of the members of the recent parodies that passed as enquiries into Climategate and the ongoing refusal of the UEA and its CRU to cough up tree-ring data in response to formal FOI requests from Steve M.
Stories about the cosy funding arrangements major Green &#039;environmental. groups have with various governments and the BBC are also emerging as a major part of the overall picture on the same blogs and even tiny parts of the usually toe-curlingly sycophantic MSM.
Intersting stuff going down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see your keyboard again, Richard.<br />
Why should NIWA be any different from its sister organisations elsewhere?<br />
Northern Hemisphere sceptical blogs such as Bishop Hill, WUWT, Climate Audit, etc,  are busy disseminating information about the conflicts of interest, cupidity, mendacity and general bentness of some of the members of the recent parodies that passed as enquiries into Climategate and the ongoing refusal of the UEA and its CRU to cough up tree-ring data in response to formal FOI requests from Steve M.<br />
Stories about the cosy funding arrangements major Green &#8216;environmental. groups have with various governments and the BBC are also emerging as a major part of the overall picture on the same blogs and even tiny parts of the usually toe-curlingly sycophantic MSM.<br />
Intersting stuff going down!</p>
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