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	<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/05/why-is-greenland-losing-ice/</link>
	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>By: Quentin F</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/05/why-is-greenland-losing-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-52919</link>
		<dc:creator>Quentin F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 23:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here on Hide the decline
http://hidethedecline.eu/pages/posts/trends-in-arctic-ice-thickness-and-volume-211.php
show significant sea-ice volume increasing towards 2010 after drops in 2007 2009 nothing more than natural processes far beyond human activity.
1. Reports on Iceage now CLEARLY show continued record snow levels in the NH particularly NA.
2. Solar cycle 24 is much weaker. The global temperatures ARE dropping to deny it is unphysical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here on Hide the decline<br />
<a href="http://hidethedecline.eu/pages/posts/trends-in-arctic-ice-thickness-and-volume-211.php" rel="nofollow">http://hidethedecline.eu/pages/posts/trends-in-arctic-ice-thickness-and-volume-211.php</a><br />
show significant sea-ice volume increasing towards 2010 after drops in 2007 2009 nothing more than natural processes far beyond human activity.<br />
1. Reports on Iceage now CLEARLY show continued record snow levels in the NH particularly NA.<br />
2. Solar cycle 24 is much weaker. The global temperatures ARE dropping to deny it is unphysical.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ilk</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/05/why-is-greenland-losing-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-52796</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ilk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 05:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah right.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bilk</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/05/why-is-greenland-losing-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-52795</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bilk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 05:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Climate change is humanities greatest challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate change is humanities greatest challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ilk</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/05/why-is-greenland-losing-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-52794</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ilk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 05:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not?...........You&#039;re an ocean specialist aren&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not?&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..You&#8217;re an ocean specialist aren&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: The Bilk</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/05/why-is-greenland-losing-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-52793</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bilk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 05:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t relate to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t relate to this.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/05/why-is-greenland-losing-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-52786</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 04:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worse still, there&#039;s increasing SSL deceleration since about 2004 (in concert with OHC) to the extent that the rise is almost topped out using a 3rd order polynomial trend.

Aaarrrrrgggghhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worse still, there&#8217;s increasing SSL deceleration since about 2004 (in concert with OHC) to the extent that the rise is almost topped out using a 3rd order polynomial trend.</p>
<p>Aaarrrrrgggghhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/05/why-is-greenland-losing-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-52784</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 04:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AP article is BS (e.g. Japan Today).

It states:-

&lt;blockquote&gt;The AMAP report said melting glaciers and ice sheets worldwide have become the biggest contributor to sea level rise. Greenland’s ice sheet alone accounted for more than 40 percent of the 0.12 inches (&lt;strong&gt;3.1 millimeters) of sea-level rise observed annually between 2003 and 2008&lt;/strong&gt;, AMAP said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

BS. The 3.1. mm trend is 1993 - present, but the trend from 2003 - 2008 is 1.8 mm per year and 2009 - present is 2 mm per year.

There will have to be some radical rise to catch up to the 15 mm per year reqd for a 1.5 m rise by 2100.

But then the projection is &quot;highly uncertain&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AP article is BS (e.g. Japan Today).</p>
<p>It states:-</p>
<blockquote><p>The AMAP report said melting glaciers and ice sheets worldwide have become the biggest contributor to sea level rise. Greenland’s ice sheet alone accounted for more than 40 percent of the 0.12 inches (<strong>3.1 millimeters) of sea-level rise observed annually between 2003 and 2008</strong>, AMAP said.</p></blockquote>
<p>BS. The 3.1. mm trend is 1993 &#8211; present, but the trend from 2003 &#8211; 2008 is 1.8 mm per year and 2009 &#8211; present is 2 mm per year.</p>
<p>There will have to be some radical rise to catch up to the 15 mm per year reqd for a 1.5 m rise by 2100.</p>
<p>But then the projection is &#8220;highly uncertain&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/05/why-is-greenland-losing-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-52627</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 05:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same article appeared here

http://coastalcare.org/2011/05/seas-could-rise-up-to-1-6-meters-by-2100-new-report/

and here

http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/report-sees-sharper-sea-rise-from-arctic-melt

and here

http://www.www.istockanalyst.com/business/news/5112100/report-sees-sharper-sea-rise-from-arctic-melt

and here

http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&amp;Date=20110503&amp;ID=13510503

and here

http://project7.co.nz/2011/05/05/arctic-melt-could-drive-sea-levels-even-higher-report/

and here

http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/may/03/arctic-climate-change/

I could keep going. Google reported over 5000 hits</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same article appeared here</p>
<p><a href="http://coastalcare.org/2011/05/seas-could-rise-up-to-1-6-meters-by-2100-new-report/" rel="nofollow">http://coastalcare.org/2011/05/seas-could-rise-up-to-1-6-meters-by-2100-new-report/</a></p>
<p>and here</p>
<p><a href="http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/report-sees-sharper-sea-rise-from-arctic-melt" rel="nofollow">http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/report-sees-sharper-sea-rise-from-arctic-melt</a></p>
<p>and here</p>
<p><a href="http://www.www.istockanalyst.com/business/news/5112100/report-sees-sharper-sea-rise-from-arctic-melt" rel="nofollow">http://www.www.istockanalyst.com/business/news/5112100/report-sees-sharper-sea-rise-from-arctic-melt</a></p>
<p>and here</p>
<p><a href="http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&#038;Date=20110503&#038;ID=13510503" rel="nofollow">http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&#038;Date=20110503&#038;ID=13510503</a></p>
<p>and here</p>
<p><a href="http://project7.co.nz/2011/05/05/arctic-melt-could-drive-sea-levels-even-higher-report/" rel="nofollow">http://project7.co.nz/2011/05/05/arctic-melt-could-drive-sea-levels-even-higher-report/</a></p>
<p>and here</p>
<p><a href="http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/may/03/arctic-climate-change/" rel="nofollow">http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/may/03/arctic-climate-change/</a></p>
<p>I could keep going. Google reported over 5000 hits</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/05/why-is-greenland-losing-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-52617</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 02:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The final paragraph gives the game away 

&lt;em&gt;&quot;I&#039;m not sure what is more alarming, the glacial pace of Congress to reduce carbon pollution or the astounding rate of melting Arctic ice,&quot; Lou Leonard, climate chief at the World Wildlife Fund, said of the new report.&lt;/em&gt;

I wonder what role the WWF had in putting together this article?
They seem to pop up all over the place.

Louise Gray of the Telegraph basically regurgitates WWF press releases. is the Herald any different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The final paragraph gives the game away </p>
<p><em>&#8220;I&#8217;m not sure what is more alarming, the glacial pace of Congress to reduce carbon pollution or the astounding rate of melting Arctic ice,&#8221; Lou Leonard, climate chief at the World Wildlife Fund, said of the new report.</em></p>
<p>I wonder what role the WWF had in putting together this article?<br />
They seem to pop up all over the place.</p>
<p>Louise Gray of the Telegraph basically regurgitates WWF press releases. is the Herald any different?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/05/why-is-greenland-losing-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-52612</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 01:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile Poland is experiencing very cold weather.

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2011/05/frozen-poles.html

Oh, I guess I am cherry-picking again. /sarc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile Poland is experiencing very cold weather.</p>
<p><a href="http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2011/05/frozen-poles.html" rel="nofollow">http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2011/05/frozen-poles.html</a></p>
<p>Oh, I guess I am cherry-picking again. /sarc</p>
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