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		<title>By: Alexander K</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/07/letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-62524</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Brit-in-the-street is just awakening to the vicious plundering of  his or her income by the friendly &#039;Greenest government ever&#039; forcing a huge rise in the cost of energy.  My view of my English cousins is that they are incredibly slow to revolt and have an equally incredible ability to put up with appalling living conditions as they did during the WWII Blitz and still come up smiling, but there are historical precedents of the Brit populace deciding &#039;enough is enough&#039; and kicking the bucket over the windmill very thoroughly.  The most recent examples of this were the Poll Tax Riots where the populace decided that Maggie Thatcher&#039;s Poll Tax was a very definite non-runner.  The wide-awake Brits now knows that their government&#039;s energy policy has ensured a very rapid rise in the numbers suffering fuel poverty; a significant number of Brits now have to choose between eating adequately and being adequately warm.  I suspect Huhne and his colleagues will discover very soon a tipping-point is approaching rapidly and that their mad affair with windmills solar panels will cost them dearly. Sadly, the Brit populace has little political choice as the three main parties share their mad faith in &#039;low-carbon energy&#039;, and revolt appears to be the sole political alternative. 
Huhne and his fellow Greenists seem to have drawn and cocked their pistols and are very carefully aiming at their own feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Brit-in-the-street is just awakening to the vicious plundering of  his or her income by the friendly &#8216;Greenest government ever&#8217; forcing a huge rise in the cost of energy.  My view of my English cousins is that they are incredibly slow to revolt and have an equally incredible ability to put up with appalling living conditions as they did during the WWII Blitz and still come up smiling, but there are historical precedents of the Brit populace deciding &#8216;enough is enough&#8217; and kicking the bucket over the windmill very thoroughly.  The most recent examples of this were the Poll Tax Riots where the populace decided that Maggie Thatcher&#8217;s Poll Tax was a very definite non-runner.  The wide-awake Brits now knows that their government&#8217;s energy policy has ensured a very rapid rise in the numbers suffering fuel poverty; a significant number of Brits now have to choose between eating adequately and being adequately warm.  I suspect Huhne and his colleagues will discover very soon a tipping-point is approaching rapidly and that their mad affair with windmills solar panels will cost them dearly. Sadly, the Brit populace has little political choice as the three main parties share their mad faith in &#8216;low-carbon energy&#8217;, and revolt appears to be the sole political alternative.<br />
Huhne and his fellow Greenists seem to have drawn and cocked their pistols and are very carefully aiming at their own feet.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/07/letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-62505</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 01:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris &quot;buff&quot; Huhne has an article in the Grauniad, and guess what? Comments are open..

Here&#039;s a few samples:

&lt;em&gt;Huhne by name. Hoon by nature.

The Knight of the Living Deadocrats
&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Mr Huhne,

 Were you high on hallucinogenic drugs when you devised this so called policy?&lt;/em&gt;

etc etc

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/nuclearpower/8630832/Energy-prices-without-reform-well-all-be-in-the-dark.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8220;buff&#8221; Huhne has an article in the Grauniad, and guess what? Comments are open..</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a few samples:</p>
<p><em>Huhne by name. Hoon by nature.</p>
<p>The Knight of the Living Deadocrats<br />
</em></p>
<p><em>Mr Huhne,</p>
<p> Were you high on hallucinogenic drugs when you devised this so called policy?</em></p>
<p>etc etc</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/nuclearpower/8630832/Energy-prices-without-reform-well-all-be-in-the-dark.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/nuclearpower/8630832/Energy-prices-without-reform-well-all-be-in-the-dark.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/07/letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-62503</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 01:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely there&#039;s an external &quot;forcing&quot; missing from the diagram?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely there&#8217;s an external &#8220;forcing&#8221; missing from the diagram?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/07/letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-62500</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all explained here by the ABC

http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/climate-change/carbon-pricing-explained.htm

Note the arrow pointing back to the household showing the &quot;compensation&quot; for the carbon tax. (According to my link above, this is actually around the same as the tax)

Then, the other arrow magically shows the same household &quot;changing behaviour&quot; and &quot;moving to low emissions products&quot;

Whose behaviour has changed since the introduction of the NZ ETS? Anyone? Don&#039;t all shout at once...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all explained here by the ABC</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/climate-change/carbon-pricing-explained.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/climate-change/carbon-pricing-explained.htm</a></p>
<p>Note the arrow pointing back to the household showing the &#8220;compensation&#8221; for the carbon tax. (According to my link above, this is actually around the same as the tax)</p>
<p>Then, the other arrow magically shows the same household &#8220;changing behaviour&#8221; and &#8220;moving to low emissions products&#8221;</p>
<p>Whose behaviour has changed since the introduction of the NZ ETS? Anyone? Don&#8217;t all shout at once&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/07/letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-62455</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Australian Climate madness has a good one on  this

&quot;Julia in Wonderland&quot;

http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/2011/07/terry-mccrann-julia-in-wonderland/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australian Climate madness has a good one on  this</p>
<p>&#8220;Julia in Wonderland&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/2011/07/terry-mccrann-julia-in-wonderland/" rel="nofollow">http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/2011/07/terry-mccrann-julia-in-wonderland/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/07/letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-62438</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick Smith has been muttering about &quot;integration&quot; of NZ and Aus ETS systems (assuming that the Aus Carbon Tax eventually morphs into an ETS as planned).

At that point, we can kiss goodbye to our freedoms, just as the member states of the EU have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Smith has been muttering about &#8220;integration&#8221; of NZ and Aus ETS systems (assuming that the Aus Carbon Tax eventually morphs into an ETS as planned).</p>
<p>At that point, we can kiss goodbye to our freedoms, just as the member states of the EU have.</p>
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		<title>By: Warrick</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/07/letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-62434</link>
		<dc:creator>Warrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First Kyoto forests, now Kyoto people.  As a forest absorbs and partially respires carbon dioxide on a daily basis, so do people.  Over time, the increase in tree volume builds up a store of carbon in the structure of the tree.  So too do many people, with NZ, Aus and US seemingly leading the charge.  One way of doing our bit to reduce carbon pollution /sarc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First Kyoto forests, now Kyoto people.  As a forest absorbs and partially respires carbon dioxide on a daily basis, so do people.  Over time, the increase in tree volume builds up a store of carbon in the structure of the tree.  So too do many people, with NZ, Aus and US seemingly leading the charge.  One way of doing our bit to reduce carbon pollution /sarc</p>
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