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	<title>Comments on: UN climate policy now dangerous</title>
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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/07/un-climate-policy-now-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-62504</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 01:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eucalyptus is Koala food Andy.

We might pay more for Vicks VapoRub though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eucalyptus is Koala food Andy.</p>
<p>We might pay more for Vicks VapoRub though.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/07/un-climate-policy-now-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-62496</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poitico-speak, hard for us plebs to understand

Maybe he is referring to this:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/5247520/Virgin-wants-planes-to-fly-on-eucalyptus

&lt;b&gt;Virgin wants planes to fly on eucalyptus&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;em&gt;There is sufficient existing sustainable biomass to support a local bio-derived jet fuel industry,&quot; said the report, commissioned by the Sustainable Aviation Fuel Users Group, which includes Air New Zealand, Qantas and Virgin, as well as aircraft manufactures Boeing and Airbus.

The aviation industry aims to be carbon neutral by 2020.

Qantas currently has biofuel feasibility studies with two US-based companies, Solazyme and Solena. &lt;/em&gt;

We&#039;ll all be paying more for food because we&#039;ll be burning it in jet engines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poitico-speak, hard for us plebs to understand</p>
<p>Maybe he is referring to this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/5247520/Virgin-wants-planes-to-fly-on-eucalyptus" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/5247520/Virgin-wants-planes-to-fly-on-eucalyptus</a></p>
<p><b>Virgin wants planes to fly on eucalyptus</b></p>
<p><em>There is sufficient existing sustainable biomass to support a local bio-derived jet fuel industry,&#8221; said the report, commissioned by the Sustainable Aviation Fuel Users Group, which includes Air New Zealand, Qantas and Virgin, as well as aircraft manufactures Boeing and Airbus.</p>
<p>The aviation industry aims to be carbon neutral by 2020.</p>
<p>Qantas currently has biofuel feasibility studies with two US-based companies, Solazyme and Solena. </em></p>
<p>We&#8217;ll all be paying more for food because we&#8217;ll be burning it in jet engines.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/07/un-climate-policy-now-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-62492</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s Groser on about here?

&quot;The world is short of food. Climate change policies will impact on food availability and price&quot;

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1107/S00174/speech-groser-address-to-3rd-japan-nz-partnership-forum.htm

Huh ?

Is he alluding to bio-ethanol production?

Carbon taxes and ETS on fuel?

Is he obliquely admitting that the world is sacrificing reasonably priced and available food in a futile quest to modify the climate?

What?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s Groser on about here?</p>
<p>&#8220;The world is short of food. Climate change policies will impact on food availability and price&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1107/S00174/speech-groser-address-to-3rd-japan-nz-partnership-forum.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1107/S00174/speech-groser-address-to-3rd-japan-nz-partnership-forum.htm</a></p>
<p>Huh ?</p>
<p>Is he alluding to bio-ethanol production?</p>
<p>Carbon taxes and ETS on fuel?</p>
<p>Is he obliquely admitting that the world is sacrificing reasonably priced and available food in a futile quest to modify the climate?</p>
<p>What?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/07/un-climate-policy-now-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-62459</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they want about 2.5 per cent of WGP to be &quot;invested&quot; as in:-

&quot;......about 2.5 per cent of WGP (or about $1.6 trillion) per annum would need to be invested to effect the energy transformation necessary to meet climate change mitigation targets alone&quot;

Seems out of context with either of these 2 meanings:-

in·vest/inˈvest/Verb
1. Expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture.
2. Buy (something) whose usefulness will repay the cost

I think they really mean &quot;would need to be [spent]&quot;.

With the caveat - &quot;with no guarantee of any real benefit to society&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they want about 2.5 per cent of WGP to be &#8220;invested&#8221; as in:-</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;&#8230;about 2.5 per cent of WGP (or about $1.6 trillion) per annum would need to be invested to effect the energy transformation necessary to meet climate change mitigation targets alone&#8221;</p>
<p>Seems out of context with either of these 2 meanings:-</p>
<p>in·vest/inˈvest/Verb<br />
1. Expend money with the expectation of achieving a profit or material result by putting it into financial schemes, shares, or property, or by using it to develop a commercial venture.<br />
2. Buy (something) whose usefulness will repay the cost</p>
<p>I think they really mean &#8220;would need to be [spent]&#8220;.</p>
<p>With the caveat &#8211; &#8220;with no guarantee of any real benefit to society&#8221;.</p>
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