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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/10/one-mans-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-69829</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 04:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I understand the blog page, Phil Jones didn&#039;t buy the Salinger adjustments, despite the two being close colleagues over so many years. This seems to be something akin to the &quot;honour amongst thieves&quot; principle, whereby Prof Jones recognised that there had to be some limits to the chicanery allowed to induce warming trends. 

The two versions of the CRU grid cells don&#039;t precisely cover the New Zealand land area – one excludes the Southern SI (Dunedin)and the other omits the East of the NI (Napier). The 1900-2005 trend was shown at 0.32°C in the first, and 0.4°C in the second. These CRU-adjusted figures are very close to those found in the NZCSC Audit.

And then, in 2006, the temperature records were handed over to the Hadley Centre, where Salinger was spending much of his time as an official of the WMO. They quickly came on board and amended the 100-year-old temperatures downwards to create trends of 1.06°C in the first version (cf NIWA 1.06°C) and 0.96°C in the second.

So, now the global IPCC figures agree at last with those appearing in the IPPC chapter on Australia &amp; New Zealand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understand the blog page, Phil Jones didn&#8217;t buy the Salinger adjustments, despite the two being close colleagues over so many years. This seems to be something akin to the &#8220;honour amongst thieves&#8221; principle, whereby Prof Jones recognised that there had to be some limits to the chicanery allowed to induce warming trends. </p>
<p>The two versions of the CRU grid cells don&#8217;t precisely cover the New Zealand land area – one excludes the Southern SI (Dunedin)and the other omits the East of the NI (Napier). The 1900-2005 trend was shown at 0.32°C in the first, and 0.4°C in the second. These CRU-adjusted figures are very close to those found in the NZCSC Audit.</p>
<p>And then, in 2006, the temperature records were handed over to the Hadley Centre, where Salinger was spending much of his time as an official of the WMO. They quickly came on board and amended the 100-year-old temperatures downwards to create trends of 1.06°C in the first version (cf NIWA 1.06°C) and 0.96°C in the second.</p>
<p>So, now the global IPCC figures agree at last with those appearing in the IPPC chapter on Australia &amp; New Zealand.</p>
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		<title>By: Warwick Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/10/one-mans-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-69075</link>
		<dc:creator>Warwick Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you interested in the FOI &quot;Wars&quot; - I have just had a reply from the BoM after 20 weeks to my asking them on 31 May for documents from NIWA that would explain the March 2010 Q &amp; A in the Beehive - where on 18 March the Minister said NIWA contacted the BoM re a review.  The BoM only have docs starting 30 August 2010.  So maybe there is scope in NZ to question the Minister again - or NIWA - and ask for specifics of NIWA contacts to BoM in early 2010 - or whenever the contact was re the BoM review.  This six month gap needs explaining.
See - &quot;FOI update – The BoM has no record of contacts by NIWA before 30 August 2010&quot;
http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=1142</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you interested in the FOI &#8220;Wars&#8221; &#8211; I have just had a reply from the BoM after 20 weeks to my asking them on 31 May for documents from NIWA that would explain the March 2010 Q &amp; A in the Beehive &#8211; where on 18 March the Minister said NIWA contacted the BoM re a review.  The BoM only have docs starting 30 August 2010.  So maybe there is scope in NZ to question the Minister again &#8211; or NIWA &#8211; and ask for specifics of NIWA contacts to BoM in early 2010 &#8211; or whenever the contact was re the BoM review.  This six month gap needs explaining.<br />
See &#8211; &#8220;FOI update – The BoM has no record of contacts by NIWA before 30 August 2010&#8243;<br />
<a href="http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=1142" rel="nofollow">http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=1142</a></p>
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		<title>By: Warwick Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/10/one-mans-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-68980</link>
		<dc:creator>Warwick Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is an interesting point that the  Professor P.D. Jones hemispheric temperature compilations starting with the Jones et al 1986 papers and leading on to CRUT2 which ceased in 2005 - did not find anything like the Salinger warming in NZ.  It was only in 2006 when the Hadley Centre authors supplanted Jones and started CRUT3 that NZ warming suddenly increased to be similar to NIWA/Salinger.
See &quot;Hadley Centre inserts more warming into New Zealand climate history&quot;
http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=113</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an interesting point that the  Professor P.D. Jones hemispheric temperature compilations starting with the Jones et al 1986 papers and leading on to CRUT2 which ceased in 2005 &#8211; did not find anything like the Salinger warming in NZ.  It was only in 2006 when the Hadley Centre authors supplanted Jones and started CRUT3 that NZ warming suddenly increased to be similar to NIWA/Salinger.<br />
See &#8220;Hadley Centre inserts more warming into New Zealand climate history&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=113" rel="nofollow">http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=113</a></p>
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		<title>By: val majkus</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/10/one-mans-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-68954</link>
		<dc:creator>val majkus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry thanks for this excellent summary of events to date
I&#039;ve put a link on Warwick Hughes&#039; blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry thanks for this excellent summary of events to date<br />
I&#8217;ve put a link on Warwick Hughes&#8217; blog</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander K</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/10/one-mans-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-68905</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 05:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent history of a very sordid and dishonest affair - thanks, Barry.
The walk-away from this silliness has begun, albeit very, very slowly, and while the usual political cya is inevitable, I live in the hope of an outbreak of parliamentary common sense.  But I&#039;m not holding my breath while I wait for that to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent history of a very sordid and dishonest affair &#8211; thanks, Barry.<br />
The walk-away from this silliness has begun, albeit very, very slowly, and while the usual political cya is inevitable, I live in the hope of an outbreak of parliamentary common sense.  But I&#8217;m not holding my breath while I wait for that to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Jowsey</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/10/one-mans-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-68891</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Jowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 00:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An amazing article.  Thanks Barry - this is stunning.

I didn&#039;t realise that Salinger was an advocate for AGW before he was a scientist.  An apparently corrupt and egocentric &#039;scientist&#039;, whose legacy has bureaucrats and politicians stonewalling and blowing smoke in typical &#039;cover butts&#039; mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An amazing article.  Thanks Barry &#8211; this is stunning.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t realise that Salinger was an advocate for AGW before he was a scientist.  An apparently corrupt and egocentric &#8216;scientist&#8217;, whose legacy has bureaucrats and politicians stonewalling and blowing smoke in typical &#8216;cover butts&#8217; mode.</p>
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