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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/reducing-emissions-a-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-70063</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 12:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CarbonTracker Europe has an animation much like Chiefio&#039;s showing highest concentrations over Central Africa:-

http://www.carbontracker.eu/

CarbonTracker North America is not much use but the following is similar to the JAXA plot:-

Figure 2. Mean ecosystem fluxes. The pattern of net ecosystem exchange (NEE) of CO2 of the land biosphere averaged over 2001-2009, as estimated by CarbonTracker. This NEE represents land-to-atmosphere carbon exchange from photosynthesis and respiration in terrestrial ecosystems, and a contribution from fires. It does not include fossil fuel emissions. Negative fluxes (blue colors) represent CO2 uptake by the land biosphere, whereas positive fluxes (red colors) indicate regions in which the land biosphere is a net source of CO2 to the atmosphere http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/carbontracker/summary.html

The reason they can leave out fossil fuel emissions is because CarbonTracker North America is &quot;based on the simulations of the terrestrial biosphere model and the assumption of large-scale ecosystem coherence. This has not been verified by observations&quot;. See &quot;Word of caution about high-resolution biological flux maps&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CarbonTracker Europe has an animation much like Chiefio&#8217;s showing highest concentrations over Central Africa:-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.carbontracker.eu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.carbontracker.eu/</a></p>
<p>CarbonTracker North America is not much use but the following is similar to the JAXA plot:-</p>
<p>Figure 2. Mean ecosystem fluxes. The pattern of net ecosystem exchange (NEE) of CO2 of the land biosphere averaged over 2001-2009, as estimated by CarbonTracker. This NEE represents land-to-atmosphere carbon exchange from photosynthesis and respiration in terrestrial ecosystems, and a contribution from fires. It does not include fossil fuel emissions. Negative fluxes (blue colors) represent CO2 uptake by the land biosphere, whereas positive fluxes (red colors) indicate regions in which the land biosphere is a net source of CO2 to the atmosphere <a href="http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/carbontracker/summary.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/carbontracker/summary.html</a></p>
<p>The reason they can leave out fossil fuel emissions is because CarbonTracker North America is &#8220;based on the simulations of the terrestrial biosphere model and the assumption of large-scale ecosystem coherence. This has not been verified by observations&#8221;. See &#8220;Word of caution about high-resolution biological flux maps&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/reducing-emissions-a-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-70058</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 12:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that remarkable perhaps. On a 2003 - 2011 basis:

Rise 375 - 393 for this group:-

Charleston, South Carolina http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=SCA&amp;program=ccgg&amp;type=ts (Aircraft data at 7000m)

Mauna Loa, Hawaii http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=SCA&amp;program=ccgg&amp;type=ts

Assekrem, Algeria http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=ASK&amp;program=ccgg&amp;type=ts

Ochsenkopf, Germany http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=OXK&amp;program=ccgg&amp;type=ts

Rise 380 -400 for this site:-

Tae-ahn, Pen., Korea http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=TAP&amp;program=ccgg&amp;type=ts

Around 395 over 2009 -2011 for this site:-

Shangdianzi, China http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=SDZ&amp;program=ccgg&amp;type=ts

The finger still points to China.

Worth a look, Figure 5: 3-dimensional plot of the global distribution of atmospheric CO2 for 2000-2009 on this page http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/about/global_means.html 
Shows NH vs SH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that remarkable perhaps. On a 2003 &#8211; 2011 basis:</p>
<p>Rise 375 &#8211; 393 for this group:-</p>
<p>Charleston, South Carolina <a href="http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=SCA&#038;program=ccgg&#038;type=ts" rel="nofollow">http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=SCA&#038;program=ccgg&#038;type=ts</a> (Aircraft data at 7000m)</p>
<p>Mauna Loa, Hawaii <a href="http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=SCA&#038;program=ccgg&#038;type=ts" rel="nofollow">http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=SCA&#038;program=ccgg&#038;type=ts</a></p>
<p>Assekrem, Algeria <a href="http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=ASK&#038;program=ccgg&#038;type=ts" rel="nofollow">http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=ASK&#038;program=ccgg&#038;type=ts</a></p>
<p>Ochsenkopf, Germany <a href="http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=OXK&#038;program=ccgg&#038;type=ts" rel="nofollow">http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=OXK&#038;program=ccgg&#038;type=ts</a></p>
<p>Rise 380 -400 for this site:-</p>
<p>Tae-ahn, Pen., Korea <a href="http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=TAP&#038;program=ccgg&#038;type=ts" rel="nofollow">http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=TAP&#038;program=ccgg&#038;type=ts</a></p>
<p>Around 395 over 2009 -2011 for this site:-</p>
<p>Shangdianzi, China <a href="http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=SDZ&#038;program=ccgg&#038;type=ts" rel="nofollow">http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=SDZ&#038;program=ccgg&#038;type=ts</a></p>
<p>The finger still points to China.</p>
<p>Worth a look, Figure 5: 3-dimensional plot of the global distribution of atmospheric CO2 for 2000-2009 on this page <a href="http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/about/global_means.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/about/global_means.html</a><br />
Shows NH vs SH.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/reducing-emissions-a-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-70047</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as much fun is this NOAA ESRL data visualization page:-

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/

Select &gt;&gt; Carbon Cycle Gases &gt;&gt; Time Series. Standout examples I&#039;ve tried so far:-

Shangdianzi, Peoples Republic of China

Assekrem, Algeria

Santarem, Brazil

Ochsenkopf, Germany

You wont believe your eyes sceptics - how could this be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as much fun is this NOAA ESRL data visualization page:-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/" rel="nofollow">http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/</a></p>
<p>Select &gt;&gt; Carbon Cycle Gases &gt;&gt; Time Series. Standout examples I&#8217;ve tried so far:-</p>
<p>Shangdianzi, Peoples Republic of China</p>
<p>Assekrem, Algeria</p>
<p>Santarem, Brazil</p>
<p>Ochsenkopf, Germany</p>
<p>You wont believe your eyes sceptics &#8211; how could this be?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/reducing-emissions-a-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-70031</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chiefio&#039;s CO2 animation (linked from JoNova) is a revelation.

See: UPDATE: Adding an animated GIF of the XCO2 from comments

http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/japanese-satellites-say-3rd-world-owes-co2-reparations-to-the-west/

Fluctuates between 360 - over 390 ppm with nary a hint that industrialized countries have any impact whatsoever.

Most significant fluxes are the Amazon, SE Asia, Central America, N Africa and Middle East.

Mauna Loa has now been relegated to obscurity as far as I can see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chiefio&#8217;s CO2 animation (linked from JoNova) is a revelation.</p>
<p>See: UPDATE: Adding an animated GIF of the XCO2 from comments</p>
<p><a href="http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/japanese-satellites-say-3rd-world-owes-co2-reparations-to-the-west/" rel="nofollow">http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/japanese-satellites-say-3rd-world-owes-co2-reparations-to-the-west/</a></p>
<p>Fluctuates between 360 &#8211; over 390 ppm with nary a hint that industrialized countries have any impact whatsoever.</p>
<p>Most significant fluxes are the Amazon, SE Asia, Central America, N Africa and Middle East.</p>
<p>Mauna Loa has now been relegated to obscurity as far as I can see.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Jowsey</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/reducing-emissions-a-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-70026</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Jowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jo Nova runs with this story too...
http://joannenova.com.au/2011/11/co2-emitted-by-the-poor-nations-and-absorbed-by-the-rich-oh-the-irony-and-this-truth-must-not-be-spoken/
&lt;i&gt;Who are the world’s worst “polluters”? According to a new high-spectral-resolution Japanese satellite — it’s developing countries.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo Nova runs with this story too&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://joannenova.com.au/2011/11/co2-emitted-by-the-poor-nations-and-absorbed-by-the-rich-oh-the-irony-and-this-truth-must-not-be-spoken/" rel="nofollow">http://joannenova.com.au/2011/11/co2-emitted-by-the-poor-nations-and-absorbed-by-the-rich-oh-the-irony-and-this-truth-must-not-be-spoken/</a><br />
<i>Who are the world’s worst “polluters”? According to a new high-spectral-resolution Japanese satellite — it’s developing countries.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/reducing-emissions-a-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-70023</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Gareth&#039;s just opened a thread on Matt Ridley&#039;s talk.

Ridley&#039;s presentation is well worth a read. I&#039;d like to see what the objections to his arguments are.

The pdf version, which has some figures, is here
http://www.bishop-hill.net/storage/ScientificHeresy.pdf

(apparently Gareth has to spray his vines and is therefore unable to comment. Likewise, I have a hard afternoon crafting software for &quot;Big Oil&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Gareth&#8217;s just opened a thread on Matt Ridley&#8217;s talk.</p>
<p>Ridley&#8217;s presentation is well worth a read. I&#8217;d like to see what the objections to his arguments are.</p>
<p>The pdf version, which has some figures, is here<br />
<a href="http://www.bishop-hill.net/storage/ScientificHeresy.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bishop-hill.net/storage/ScientificHeresy.pdf</a></p>
<p>(apparently Gareth has to spray his vines and is therefore unable to comment. Likewise, I have a hard afternoon crafting software for &#8220;Big Oil&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/reducing-emissions-a-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-70015</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our work may be done, but when statements like this are made
&lt;em&gt;Update 1: BEST shows that global warming is continuing apace into the century &lt;/em&gt;
I feel compelled to ask for a piece of evidence to support this.

It turns out that CTG is standing as  a Green Party candidate in the forthcoming elections, so maybe downright lying is not a surprise (a characteristic of politicians rather than Greens specifically)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our work may be done, but when statements like this are made<br />
<em>Update 1: BEST shows that global warming is continuing apace into the century </em><br />
I feel compelled to ask for a piece of evidence to support this.</p>
<p>It turns out that CTG is standing as  a Green Party candidate in the forthcoming elections, so maybe downright lying is not a surprise (a characteristic of politicians rather than Greens specifically)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/reducing-emissions-a-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-70013</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CTG rang a bell but I couldn&#039;t place it - HT, thanks.

Pity we can&#039;t respond but the points have been made and the feathers have been ruffled - our work is done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CTG rang a bell but I couldn&#8217;t place it &#8211; HT, thanks.</p>
<p>Pity we can&#8217;t respond but the points have been made and the feathers have been ruffled &#8211; our work is done.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/reducing-emissions-a-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-70012</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and in the rest of the blogosphere, Hot Topic regular CTG has replied to this blog post I highlighted yesterday (on BEST) with some ad homs etc

http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/blogs/an-auckland-minute/5896001/Nats-hope-we-focus-on-rugby-not-global-warning#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and in the rest of the blogosphere, Hot Topic regular CTG has replied to this blog post I highlighted yesterday (on BEST) with some ad homs etc</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/blogs/an-auckland-minute/5896001/Nats-hope-we-focus-on-rugby-not-global-warning#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/blogs/an-auckland-minute/5896001/Nats-hope-we-focus-on-rugby-not-global-warning#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/reducing-emissions-a-mission/comment-page-1/#comment-70010</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A “severe debunking” might raise a few ripples in the Skeptical Science bathtub but Matt Ridley swims in &lt;a href=&quot;http://&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a much larger pond&lt;/a&gt;.

Anthony Watts reports:-

&lt;blockquote&gt;UPDATE: Matt Ridley has graciously allowed me to repost his speech in entirety here. It follows below. If there’s one speech about the climate debate worth reading in your lifetime, this is it. Andrew Montford of Bishop Hill has also formatted the speech into a PDF file, with an improved version, better graphics, A5 format for printing by Mike Haesler here Ridley_RSA (PDF)  suitable for emailing, printing, and snail mail. &lt;strong&gt;Distribute both as widely as possible.&lt;/strong&gt; The lecture was delivered with slides, Dr. Ridley has sent me the ones he considers key, and I have inserted them . For background on this prestigious lecture, here is the lecture web page, and here is what RSA is all about and the history since 1754.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/01/thank-you-matt-ridley/&lt;/blockquote&gt;

BTW, Fox News has carried the Delinquent Teenager story FWTW - at least they are MSM http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/02/un-hired-grad-students-to-author-major-climate-reports/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A “severe debunking” might raise a few ripples in the Skeptical Science bathtub but Matt Ridley swims in <a href="http://" rel="nofollow">a much larger pond</a>.</p>
<p>Anthony Watts reports:-</p>
<blockquote><p>UPDATE: Matt Ridley has graciously allowed me to repost his speech in entirety here. It follows below. If there’s one speech about the climate debate worth reading in your lifetime, this is it. Andrew Montford of Bishop Hill has also formatted the speech into a PDF file, with an improved version, better graphics, A5 format for printing by Mike Haesler here Ridley_RSA (PDF)  suitable for emailing, printing, and snail mail. <strong>Distribute both as widely as possible.</strong> The lecture was delivered with slides, Dr. Ridley has sent me the ones he considers key, and I have inserted them . For background on this prestigious lecture, here is the lecture web page, and here is what RSA is all about and the history since 1754.</p>
<p><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/01/thank-you-matt-ridley/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/01/thank-you-matt-ridley/</a></p></blockquote>
<p>BTW, Fox News has carried the Delinquent Teenager story FWTW &#8211; at least they are MSM <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/02/un-hired-grad-students-to-author-major-climate-reports/" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/02/un-hired-grad-students-to-author-major-climate-reports/</a></p>
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