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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>By: Australis</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/un-desperate-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-72461</link>
		<dc:creator>Australis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 07:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the WMO, the current year will be the 11th warmest &quot;since records began&quot;. 

Surprising they don&#039;t mention that it will almost certainly be the coolest year this century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the WMO, the current year will be the 11th warmest &#8220;since records began&#8221;. </p>
<p>Surprising they don&#8217;t mention that it will almost certainly be the coolest year this century.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/un-desperate-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-72409</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it somewhat ironic that South Africa, hosting the latest climate talks, is building the world&#039;s largest coal fired power station whose emissions will be something like 50% of the entire NZ&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it somewhat ironic that South Africa, hosting the latest climate talks, is building the world&#8217;s largest coal fired power station whose emissions will be something like 50% of the entire NZ&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/un-desperate-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-72408</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also at Durban yesterday, it emerged that commercial banks including Barclays, JP Morgan Chase and Royal Bank of Scotland, have nearly doubled their support for the global coal industry since 2005, the year the Kyoto Protocol came into force.

The total value of financing for 31 major coal-mining companies and 40 producers of coal-fired electricity amounted to 232 billion euros over the five years, according to the lending portfolios of 93 of the world&#039;s leading banks. 

ttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/8926101/Durban-Climate-Change-Conference-US-refusal-to-negotiate-carbon-emissions-cuts-risks-derailing-summit.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also at Durban yesterday, it emerged that commercial banks including Barclays, JP Morgan Chase and Royal Bank of Scotland, have nearly doubled their support for the global coal industry since 2005, the year the Kyoto Protocol came into force.</p>
<p>The total value of financing for 31 major coal-mining companies and 40 producers of coal-fired electricity amounted to 232 billion euros over the five years, according to the lending portfolios of 93 of the world&#8217;s leading banks. </p>
<p>ttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/8926101/Durban-Climate-Change-Conference-US-refusal-to-negotiate-carbon-emissions-cuts-risks-derailing-summit.html</p>
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		<title>By: PeterM</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/un-desperate-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-72372</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello NZ media? There is lots happening and you are not paying attention - WHY?
Durban, South Africa COP17
  An interesting article by Kenny &amp;&quot;Climate change ushers in a new age of superstition&quot;.
http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=159739
Meanwhile, Canada – the most politically correct country in the Americas – will probably leave the Kyoto protocol next month.
Europe no longer wants to act unilaterally. 
Swiss banking giant UBS has calculated the costs of the European emission ponzi scheme at $287 billion for an impact of zero.
Obama&#039;s administration won&#039;t give any money to a flagship &quot;global climate fund&quot;
The Chinese solar industry is dying, too.
Climategate 2011 e-mails. The BBC unmasked. 
The Register and many others inform about a recent article on climate sensitivity that was mentioned on TRF,. Suddenly, the warming crisis is less serious than previously thought. 
Christopher Booker used the pages of the Telegraph yesterday to discuss whether the global warming scare is the greatest delusion of the human history. The number of articles that argue that global warming is a lie has markedly increased in recent months.
The warmists have discovered that Global Warming causes weather and I heard a new description for Global Warming and the Financial Crisis from our friends across the ditch Global Disruption!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello NZ media? There is lots happening and you are not paying attention &#8211; WHY?<br />
Durban, South Africa COP17<br />
  An interesting article by Kenny &amp;&#8221;Climate change ushers in a new age of superstition&#8221;.<br />
<a href="http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=159739" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=159739</a><br />
Meanwhile, Canada – the most politically correct country in the Americas – will probably leave the Kyoto protocol next month.<br />
Europe no longer wants to act unilaterally.<br />
Swiss banking giant UBS has calculated the costs of the European emission ponzi scheme at $287 billion for an impact of zero.<br />
Obama&#8217;s administration won&#8217;t give any money to a flagship &#8220;global climate fund&#8221;<br />
The Chinese solar industry is dying, too.<br />
Climategate 2011 e-mails. The BBC unmasked.<br />
The Register and many others inform about a recent article on climate sensitivity that was mentioned on TRF,. Suddenly, the warming crisis is less serious than previously thought.<br />
Christopher Booker used the pages of the Telegraph yesterday to discuss whether the global warming scare is the greatest delusion of the human history. The number of articles that argue that global warming is a lie has markedly increased in recent months.<br />
The warmists have discovered that Global Warming causes weather and I heard a new description for Global Warming and the Financial Crisis from our friends across the ditch Global Disruption!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/un-desperate-dangerous/comment-page-1/#comment-72359</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 06:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m quizzical about Lengoasa&#039;s use of the word &quot;world&quot; in the element: &quot;the world is warming&quot;.

TheFreeDictionary provides 15 world definitions, relevant being 1 and 15:-
1. The earth.
15. A celestial body such as a planet:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/world

The earth has 15 definitions the most relevant being 1a and 2:-
1.
a. The land surface of the world.
2. often Earth The third planet from the sun,

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/earth

I really would prefer something more specific than &quot;the world&quot; e.g. mid to upper troposphere (as AGW prescribes) or the ocean (as physics dictates).

Problem being then that: a) the science ain&#039;t so solid; b) there&#039;s no unequivocal proof of continued warming; and, c) the human attribution vanishes.

Only Lengoasa knows what he means by his use of &quot;the world&quot; and that meaning is open to conjecture unless he is more specific - and that probably holds for what he meant by &quot;warming&quot; too.

Desperate and dangerous indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m quizzical about Lengoasa&#8217;s use of the word &#8220;world&#8221; in the element: &#8220;the world is warming&#8221;.</p>
<p>TheFreeDictionary provides 15 world definitions, relevant being 1 and 15:-<br />
1. The earth.<br />
15. A celestial body such as a planet:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/world" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/world</a></p>
<p>The earth has 15 definitions the most relevant being 1a and 2:-<br />
1.<br />
a. The land surface of the world.<br />
2. often Earth The third planet from the sun,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/earth" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/earth</a></p>
<p>I really would prefer something more specific than &#8220;the world&#8221; e.g. mid to upper troposphere (as AGW prescribes) or the ocean (as physics dictates).</p>
<p>Problem being then that: a) the science ain&#8217;t so solid; b) there&#8217;s no unequivocal proof of continued warming; and, c) the human attribution vanishes.</p>
<p>Only Lengoasa knows what he means by his use of &#8220;the world&#8221; and that meaning is open to conjecture unless he is more specific &#8211; and that probably holds for what he meant by &#8220;warming&#8221; too.</p>
<p>Desperate and dangerous indeed.</p>
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