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	<title>Comments on: Climate treaty blatantly anti-West</title>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/12/climate-treaty-blatantly-anti-west/comment-page-1/#comment-73436</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twitter / @BBCRBlack: Heard in corridor #cop17 - ..

    Heard in corridor #cop17 - &lt;strong&gt;&#039;they are supposed to be saving the planet and they can&#039;t even run a meeting...&#039;&lt;/strong&gt;

Twitter / @kate_sheppard: Hanging out with NGO folks ...   

    &lt;strong&gt;Hanging out with NGO folks who all seem to agree that this is the worst. COP. ever&lt;/strong&gt;. #COP17

Twitter / @ClimateDilemma: @kate_sheppard perhaps you ...

    @kate_sheppard &lt;strong&gt;perhaps you should ask Mr Monkton how the communist world govt conspiracy is going&lt;/strong&gt;

Twitter / @kate_sheppard: .@ClimateDilemma Exactly! ...   

    .@ClimateDilemma &lt;strong&gt;Exactly! Clearly anyone who has observed one of these negotiations can&#039;t actually worry about the UN taking over world.&lt;/strong&gt;

http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2011/12/warmists-tweet-are-supposed-to-be.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter / @BBCRBlack: Heard in corridor #cop17 &#8211; ..</p>
<p>    Heard in corridor #cop17 &#8211; <strong>&#8216;they are supposed to be saving the planet and they can&#8217;t even run a meeting&#8230;&#8217;</strong></p>
<p>Twitter / @kate_sheppard: Hanging out with NGO folks &#8230;   </p>
<p>    <strong>Hanging out with NGO folks who all seem to agree that this is the worst. COP. ever</strong>. #COP17</p>
<p>Twitter / @ClimateDilemma: @kate_sheppard perhaps you &#8230;</p>
<p>    @kate_sheppard <strong>perhaps you should ask Mr Monkton how the communist world govt conspiracy is going</strong></p>
<p>Twitter / @kate_sheppard: .@ClimateDilemma Exactly! &#8230;   </p>
<p>    .@ClimateDilemma <strong>Exactly! Clearly anyone who has observed one of these negotiations can&#8217;t actually worry about the UN taking over world.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2011/12/warmists-tweet-are-supposed-to-be.html" rel="nofollow">http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2011/12/warmists-tweet-are-supposed-to-be.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/12/climate-treaty-blatantly-anti-west/comment-page-1/#comment-73435</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elsewhere I&#039;ve seen the UN proposal described as:-

&quot;One long Marxist rant&quot;

And,

&quot;...nothing less than the official adoption of an international earth religion.  In this sense, some GWHs seek to impose a neo pagan earth religion on us all&quot;

Monckton gives us &quot;heroically lunatic&quot;

Not much more to add really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elsewhere I&#8217;ve seen the UN proposal described as:-</p>
<p>&#8220;One long Marxist rant&#8221;</p>
<p>And,</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;nothing less than the official adoption of an international earth religion.  In this sense, some GWHs seek to impose a neo pagan earth religion on us all&#8221;</p>
<p>Monckton gives us &#8220;heroically lunatic&#8221;</p>
<p>Not much more to add really.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Treadgold</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/12/climate-treaty-blatantly-anti-west/comment-page-1/#comment-73366</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 03:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. The worrying aspect is that, though the level of control the UN bureaucrats propose is high, this is still only the thin end of the wedge. Should they gain this interim authority, they will then arrogate such further powers to themselves as we innocents find hard to envisage. Imagine them with a free hand to reform education (&quot;children of polluters are not welcome in this school&quot;) or the health system (&quot;you need a new kidney, but they&#039;re not for polluters, sorry&quot;), immigration (&quot;accept these 500,000 climate refugees from the Maldives and don&#039;t pollute our air by building new homes for them&quot;), defence (&quot;you won&#039;t be needing this army again, and we need them for the pollution enforcement teams&quot;), police (&quot;our new priority is the public smoking menace; the criminals will be immediately arrested and imprisoned&quot;), trade (&quot;we&#039;re trebling the price you pay for this tropical timber and you will lower the price of your sheep meat to Kenya by 90%&quot;).

I suspect that, compared with these ruthless green UNFCCC heroes, we will fondly recall other tyrants as mere dull-witted dreamers. And all for &quot;Mother Earth&quot;. Remember that church leaders, whatever the church, have employed the greatest savagery from the purest of motives. What is purer than Mother Earth?

This green raison d&#039;être could persist for half a millenium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. The worrying aspect is that, though the level of control the UN bureaucrats propose is high, this is still only the thin end of the wedge. Should they gain this interim authority, they will then arrogate such further powers to themselves as we innocents find hard to envisage. Imagine them with a free hand to reform education (&#8220;children of polluters are not welcome in this school&#8221;) or the health system (&#8220;you need a new kidney, but they&#8217;re not for polluters, sorry&#8221;), immigration (&#8220;accept these 500,000 climate refugees from the Maldives and don&#8217;t pollute our air by building new homes for them&#8221;), defence (&#8220;you won&#8217;t be needing this army again, and we need them for the pollution enforcement teams&#8221;), police (&#8220;our new priority is the public smoking menace; the criminals will be immediately arrested and imprisoned&#8221;), trade (&#8220;we&#8217;re trebling the price you pay for this tropical timber and you will lower the price of your sheep meat to Kenya by 90%&#8221;).</p>
<p>I suspect that, compared with these ruthless green UNFCCC heroes, we will fondly recall other tyrants as mere dull-witted dreamers. And all for &#8220;Mother Earth&#8221;. Remember that church leaders, whatever the church, have employed the greatest savagery from the purest of motives. What is purer than Mother Earth?</p>
<p>This green raison d&#8217;être could persist for half a millenium.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Kerkin</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/12/climate-treaty-blatantly-anti-west/comment-page-1/#comment-73361</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Kerkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 02:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;had better not sign up to this process&quot;? How do we stop them? They&#039;ve already taken the first two steps: signing up to Kyoto in the first instance; introducing an ETS in the second (who cares if they were of different flavour governments at the time?).

And we have Groser in Durban prancing around like a show pony. Scratch their egos and they will do anything - even turning on their backs to allow their tummies to be scratched.

Hey — sounds just like my wife&#039;s cat!

Richard T this is more like &quot;Be afraid. Be very afraid!&quot; than anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;had better not sign up to this process&#8221;? How do we stop them? They&#8217;ve already taken the first two steps: signing up to Kyoto in the first instance; introducing an ETS in the second (who cares if they were of different flavour governments at the time?).</p>
<p>And we have Groser in Durban prancing around like a show pony. Scratch their egos and they will do anything &#8211; even turning on their backs to allow their tummies to be scratched.</p>
<p>Hey — sounds just like my wife&#8217;s cat!</p>
<p>Richard T this is more like &#8220;Be afraid. Be very afraid!&#8221; than anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 02:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a few words for it. The UN is full of greedy green looneys. Our current and any future government had better not sign up to this nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a few words for it. The UN is full of greedy green looneys. Our current and any future government had better not sign up to this nonsense.</p>
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