Comments on: Climate lies in high places

By: Simon

Simon — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:33:18 +0000

“People have spent thousands of years building society for one climate”!! Dear NOAA, don’t make me laugh. Try explaining that to those who live in igloos and those who live in desert tents, or those who experience huge swings in weather conditions season-on-season, year-on-year.

By: Richard Treadgold

Richard Treadgold — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:25:53 +0000

Right. So perhaps that’s as far as we can go. I would like to pull Salinger’s arguments — or more correctly ad hoc assertions — apart in a post here. That might stir more discussion. I hope to get time in the next few days, but there’s activity on the legal front I’m helping with plus I have work to do, so don’t hold your breath.

I must say, it’s good to be working as part of a team.

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:17:37 +0000

Yes, we’re doing fairly well. But it’s taken the focus right away from the main point that Salinger is imparting a lot of misleading inaccuracies

Richard – yes I agree, but it is really hard to have any kind of ‘debate” on any thread where warmists preside. They are not interested in debate. There are only interested in forcing their dogma at you.
At least the casual reader (if there are any still reading the comments) can make their own mind up about the nature of the warmist argument.
In fact, it was their abusive and patronising nature that really turned me off their arguments when I first started getting embroiled in the climate issue This is not how science is done.

By: Richard Treadgold

Richard Treadgold — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:10:45 +0000

The “CCG team” plus others have been having a bit of a home run

Yes, we’re doing fairly well. But it’s taken the focus right away from the main point that Salinger is imparting a lot of misleading inaccuracies. It would be useful to take the discussion back to that, don’t you think? It would either spark a healthy debate or finally drive the warmists away.

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:54:08 +0000

The “CCG team” plus others have been having a bit of a home run on the Salinger article.

By: Richard C (NZ)

Richard C (NZ) — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:37:45 +0000

It would be interesting to know how an intelligent, neutral and objective observer views the respective arguments. I suspect that the likes of Paul #43 do not do their side’s cause (“the cause”) any good and probably do more harm than anything.

I’m happy to settle with what we’ve got at the moment (these 2 forums), CG2 is not going away thanks to the likes of Tom Nelson’s links top right home page:-

* ClimateGate–see 250+ “outed” emails here

http://tomnelson.blogspot.co.nz/p/climategate_05.html

Fantastic resource, random hotlink:-

Oh, fudge: ClimateGate email–”Tuning may be a way to fudge the physics”

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:34:56 +0000

Gosh the abuse is really heating up on the Salinger article. RW from HT has made an impromptu visit with his usual vitriol and scorn.

Naturally there is not a shred of evidence of any scientific knowledge, just his desire to see us all dead.

This is what passes as debate in NZ these days. God help us

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 02:59:58 +0000

The mouth-foamers on the Salinger article have started on the racist/sexist/ageist shtick against the “deniers”. (Paul #43)

it’s about time these chaps did some reading into the “Jewish science” that was so despised in the 1930s in Germany

Maybe we could get the Dom to publish the CG2 emails, you know the ones where Jimbo was trying to get Chris deF sacked from Auckland Uni?

By: Richard C (NZ)

Richard C (NZ) — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 02:48:34 +0000

Just realized that Stargate just goes to different locations in the same universe so that’s no help.

Also fictional too, turns out.

By: Richard C (NZ)

Richard C (NZ) — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 02:30:16 +0000

Although if Homer Simpson’s experience is anything to go by, I wont be the first to jump down the hole.

Stargate might be the way, there’s one at Cheyenne Mountain Air Force Station near Colorado Springs, Colorado. from what I can gather http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Program