Comments on: NZ sceptics v. NIWA – summary of case

By: How NIWA added lots of warming in New Zealand – and got away with it – so far « Tallbloke's Talkshop

Mon, 29 Oct 2012 00:16:09 +0000

[...] sceptics case is laid out in in various previous posts (NZ sceptics v. NIWA – summary of case, More about the NZ temperature record, What warming, Incredible sham from NIWA and others) [...]

By: Breaking: Courtroom Chaos as New Zealand Skeptics Rout Government Climatists | johnosullivan

Wed, 01 Aug 2012 19:19:12 +0000

[...] New Zealand’s National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA) are reeling after what may prove a fatally embarrassing admission that it is breaking a solemn undertaking given to parliament. NIWA had assured ministers that it would disclose a third party peer-reviewed report of its science for courtroom verification as part of its defense against a petition in the case of NZ Skeptics-v-NIWA. [...]

By: Alexander K

Alexander K — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:00:41 +0000

Thanks! Found it, done it.
(Brevity inspired by memories of Offagain, Onagain, Finnegan)

By: Alexander K

Alexander K — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 03:06:21 +0000

Richard, I would comply if I could find it!!

I cannot reject such a heartfelt plea. Try this (it works for me): http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/open-threads/climate/regions/pacific/. Thanks.

By: Richard C (NZ)

Richard C (NZ) — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 00:46:28 +0000

There was a ‘Pacific’ page in Open Threads but now it’s Not Found. RT may have taken it down.

More likely I neglected to create the page from your original list in comments – I haven’t deleted it. It now exists, and I invite Alexander to resubmit his comment to that page.

By: Alexander K

Alexander K — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 00:03:49 +0000

I realise this is way OT, but I cannot find anywhere relevant to post it – Auntie Herald, in Monday last’s edition, published a piece about the Olympic athlete(s) from Tuvalu, along with a pic of the edge of the airfield that the US built on one of the larger atolls that comprise Tuvalu during WWII. The caption for the pic stated, and this was totally irrelevant to the piece, that ‘Tuvalu is under threat from global warming’. Anyone can research the mess the Tuvaluans have made of their environment, which has absolutely nothing to do with global warming, real or imaginary and everything to do with too many people attempting to cope with a crowded environment.

Thanks for this report, Alexander. I’d like to follow this up. I’ve just created a “Pacific” page, so would you mind terribly resubmitting this comment to that page, please? Then I’ll delete this comment. Because, even with all my super powers as uber-blog fuhrer and all that, I’m unable to craft a comment as though from someone else. I can move comments, but only between pages or between posts – not from post to page. Sometimes I’m pushed from pillar to post and it’s not nice! Sorry for the inconvenience and everything.

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 04:38:30 +0000

and also feel free to join in on the comments. We have the usual suspects giving us a hard time

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 03:49:48 +0000

Note too that the linear trend applied is an un-statistical representation of the series.

Another masterpiece of understatement Richard C

By: Richard C (NZ)

Richard C (NZ) — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 02:56:05 +0000

The odd thing as you can see is that the trend they talk about starts at 1909 with 4 stations, the series only has 7 stations from 1913, the series starts with 1 station at 1900 but the graph they show on that web page starts around 1853ish.

Note too that the linear trend applied is an un-statistical representation of the series.

By: Richard C (NZ)

Richard C (NZ) — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 02:46:19 +0000

Could be rounding I think David. The ‘Seven-station’ series temperature data is to 2 decimal places, the spreadsheet of it to 2010 can be downloaded from this page:-

http://www.niwa.co.nz/our-science/climate/information-and-resources/nz-temp-record/review/changes/seven-station-series-temperature-data