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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>By: Stanley</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/aussie-analysis-of-high-court-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-118348</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;NIWA was clear about why they used the methodology they did.&quot;

They were? I must have missed it. Come on Ken, do tell ..... what was the reason they dropped the Rhoades &amp; Salinger method, after all these years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;NIWA was clear about why they used the methodology they did.&#8221;</p>
<p>They were? I must have missed it. Come on Ken, do tell &#8230;.. what was the reason they dropped the Rhoades &amp; Salinger method, after all these years?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/aussie-analysis-of-high-court-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-118337</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh please, please, please appeal the decision, and bring Monckton down to support your case!

Where can I donate to help get things off the ground?

Can I book tickets in advance? I just love a good comedy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please, please, please appeal the decision, and bring Monckton down to support your case!</p>
<p>Where can I donate to help get things off the ground?</p>
<p>Can I book tickets in advance? I just love a good comedy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Treadgold</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/aussie-analysis-of-high-court-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-118325</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Andy - a brilliant explosion of light relief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Andy &#8211; a brilliant explosion of light relief.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/aussie-analysis-of-high-court-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-118321</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now the hypocrisy meter&#039;s blown a fuse, too! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now the hypocrisy meter&#8217;s blown a fuse, too! <img src='http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/aussie-analysis-of-high-court-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-118276</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So you have already appealed, got support from the court and won your case?&quot; - No

Wait for the appeal process to run it&#039;s course Ken - don&#039;t get all preemptive and premature yourself.

Besides I&#039;m not a member of NZCSC/ET so it&#039;s not me that&#039;s appealing. I&#039;m just identifying the obvious grounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So you have already appealed, got support from the court and won your case?&#8221; &#8211; No</p>
<p>Wait for the appeal process to run it&#8217;s course Ken &#8211; don&#8217;t get all preemptive and premature yourself.</p>
<p>Besides I&#8217;m not a member of NZCSC/ET so it&#8217;s not me that&#8217;s appealing. I&#8217;m just identifying the obvious grounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/aussie-analysis-of-high-court-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-118275</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You have done nothing to show thei8r methods are inappropriate - nothing at all - just presented your opinion&quot;

Ken. why don&#039;t you actually read &#039;Statistical Audit&#039; before making an idiot of yourself?

&quot;And to cap it off there were faults in the way you tried to apply one method&quot;

And those were specifically? Stop hand waving, bluffing and casting innuendo Ken - you&#039;ve got nothing to back up your claims..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You have done nothing to show thei8r methods are inappropriate &#8211; nothing at all &#8211; just presented your opinion&#8221;</p>
<p>Ken. why don&#8217;t you actually read &#8216;Statistical Audit&#8217; before making an idiot of yourself?</p>
<p>&#8220;And to cap it off there were faults in the way you tried to apply one method&#8221;</p>
<p>And those were specifically? Stop hand waving, bluffing and casting innuendo Ken &#8211; you&#8217;ve got nothing to back up your claims..</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/aussie-analysis-of-high-court-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-118265</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Richard - careful about counting those chickens. It&#039;s backfired on you so often. You say:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Analysis, critique and scrutiny are turning up the grounds for appeal. Why would the Court system support an appeal process if every judicial decision was perfect?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

So you have already appealed, got support from the court and won your case? You &lt;b&gt;are&lt;/b&gt; in denial aren&#039;t you?

Pull the other one. I imagine all you will be appealing is the size of the costs awarded against you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Richard &#8211; careful about counting those chickens. It&#8217;s backfired on you so often. You say:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Analysis, critique and scrutiny are turning up the grounds for appeal. Why would the Court system support an appeal process if every judicial decision was perfect?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>So you have already appealed, got support from the court and won your case? You <b>are</b> in denial aren&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Pull the other one. I imagine all you will be appealing is the size of the costs awarded against you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/aussie-analysis-of-high-court-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-118264</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manfred/Bob - you are showing all the symptoms of being in denial. Working hard to confuse people with a spin. As I asked before - where is your integrity.

NIWA explained how they did their review independently - not just using exactly the same values as previously. You have done nothing to show thei8r methods are inappropriate - nothing at all - just presented your opinion (which is of no more value than mine). And to cap it off there were faults in the way you tried to apply one method.

No-one has dropped any method - just used what was appropriate and where necessary independent.

Treadgold still having a long lunch? some people are lucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manfred/Bob &#8211; you are showing all the symptoms of being in denial. Working hard to confuse people with a spin. As I asked before &#8211; where is your integrity.</p>
<p>NIWA explained how they did their review independently &#8211; not just using exactly the same values as previously. You have done nothing to show thei8r methods are inappropriate &#8211; nothing at all &#8211; just presented your opinion (which is of no more value than mine). And to cap it off there were faults in the way you tried to apply one method.</p>
<p>No-one has dropped any method &#8211; just used what was appropriate and where necessary independent.</p>
<p>Treadgold still having a long lunch? some people are lucky.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/aussie-analysis-of-high-court-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-118249</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 03:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;working hard to deny the validity of Justice Venning’s decisions&quot; 

Rubbish. Analysis, critique and scrutiny are turning up the grounds for appeal.

Why would the Court system support an appeal process if every judicial decision was perfect Ken?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;working hard to deny the validity of Justice Venning’s decisions&#8221; </p>
<p>Rubbish. Analysis, critique and scrutiny are turning up the grounds for appeal.</p>
<p>Why would the Court system support an appeal process if every judicial decision was perfect Ken?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob D</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/aussie-analysis-of-high-court-decision/comment-page-1/#comment-118247</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken:
&lt;blockquote&gt;In my experience researchers use the most appropriate methodology for their situation and time – there is a danger in a naive understanding of “official” “accredited” methodology which makes me suspect you have little experience of research in natural systems. NIWA was clear about why they used the methodology they did and the mistakes you made in your own analysis (just as well your document was not at issue, isn’t it?).&lt;/blockquote&gt;You&#039;re really trying desperately to make a save here, but it&#039;s not going to work.

You&#039;re saying that the most appropriate methodology for the 7SS was RS93 (after all, that&#039;s the method they used, no? - you said so yourself, back in 2009 and 2010), but now suddenly a better technique is an unpublished, untested, non peer-reviewed technique from a student&#039;s thesis written in 1981?  

What happened between 1999 and 2010 that caused them to reach that conclusion, Ken, and drop RS93?

And why did you not mention that back in 2009 when you were banging on about how everybody knew RS93 was NIWA&#039;s technique, being internationally peer-reviewed and all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken:</p>
<blockquote><p>In my experience researchers use the most appropriate methodology for their situation and time – there is a danger in a naive understanding of “official” “accredited” methodology which makes me suspect you have little experience of research in natural systems. NIWA was clear about why they used the methodology they did and the mistakes you made in your own analysis (just as well your document was not at issue, isn’t it?).</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re really trying desperately to make a save here, but it&#8217;s not going to work.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re saying that the most appropriate methodology for the 7SS was RS93 (after all, that&#8217;s the method they used, no? &#8211; you said so yourself, back in 2009 and 2010), but now suddenly a better technique is an unpublished, untested, non peer-reviewed technique from a student&#8217;s thesis written in 1981?  </p>
<p>What happened between 1999 and 2010 that caused them to reach that conclusion, Ken, and drop RS93?</p>
<p>And why did you not mention that back in 2009 when you were banging on about how everybody knew RS93 was NIWA&#8217;s technique, being internationally peer-reviewed and all?</p>
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