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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Leading climate scientists&#8221; make false allegation</title>
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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>By: Climate change denier’s false “deep distress” fools no-one &#124; Secular News Daily</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegation/comment-page-1/#comment-117667</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate change denier’s false “deep distress” fools no-one &#124; Secular News Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 04:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] var mydate=new Date() var year=mydate.getYear() if (year &lt; 1000) year+=1900 var day=mydate.getDay() var month=mydate.getMonth() var daym=mydate.getDate() if (daym Recently I commented on the High Court rejection of the climate change deniers/contrarians/sceptics arguments against NIWA&#8217;s New Zealand temperature record. I said that those attacking NIWA were &#8220;getting all falsely indignant because others have pointed out that in effect they were charging that NIWA had acted fraudulently and this had been rejected (see “Leading climate scientists” make false allegation).&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] var mydate=new Date() var year=mydate.getYear() if (year &lt; 1000) year+=1900 var day=mydate.getDay() var month=mydate.getMonth() var daym=mydate.getDate() if (daym Recently I commented on the High Court rejection of the climate change deniers/contrarians/sceptics arguments against NIWA&#8217;s New Zealand temperature record. I said that those attacking NIWA were &#8220;getting all falsely indignant because others have pointed out that in effect they were charging that NIWA had acted fraudulently and this had been rejected (see “Leading climate scientists” make false allegation).&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegation/comment-page-1/#comment-117085</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you read the paper today, boys?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10834154</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you read the paper today, boys?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&#038;objectid=10834154" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&#038;objectid=10834154</a></p>
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		<title>By: Climate change denier’s false “deep distress” fools no-one &#124; Open Parachute</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegation/comment-page-1/#comment-116447</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate change denier’s false “deep distress” fools no-one &#124; Open Parachute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 01:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Recently I commented on the High Court rejection of the climate change [ad homs removed] sceptics arguments against NIWA&#8217;s New Zealand temperature record. I said that those attacking NIWA were &#8220;getting all falsely indignant because others have pointed out that in effect they were charging that NIWA had acted fraudulently and this had been rejected (see “Leading climate scientists” make false allegation).&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Recently I commented on the High Court rejection of the climate change [ad homs removed] sceptics arguments against NIWA&#8217;s New Zealand temperature record. I said that those attacking NIWA were &#8220;getting all falsely indignant because others have pointed out that in effect they were charging that NIWA had acted fraudulently and this had been rejected (see “Leading climate scientists” make false allegation).&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Updates From NZ Climate Realists Neil &#38; Esther Henderson &#124; NORTHLAND NEW ZEALAND CHEMTRAILS WATCH</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegation/comment-page-1/#comment-116322</link>
		<dc:creator>Updates From NZ Climate Realists Neil &#38; Esther Henderson &#124; NORTHLAND NEW ZEALAND CHEMTRAILS WATCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a balance to the discussion, Richard Treadgold&#8217;s Climate Conversation Group has been busy: http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegat...  An opinion piece by Chris de Freitas is here: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a balance to the discussion, Richard Treadgold&#8217;s Climate Conversation Group has been busy: <a href="http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegat" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegat</a>&#8230;  An opinion piece by Chris de Freitas is here: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegation/comment-page-1/#comment-116059</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 00:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scoop have responded by republishing this post

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1209/S00117/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegation.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scoop have responded by republishing this post</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1209/S00117/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegation.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1209/S00117/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegation.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegation/comment-page-1/#comment-116058</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 00:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scientific process will blow away Renwick&#039;s view and the NIWA 7SS eventually. He hasn&#039;t addressed the relative merits of the NZCSET and NIWA series yet in a clinical scientific way but he will have to eventually.

And Dr Mullen will have to inform us all on why he should be considered a statistician with expertise of more repute than 3 professionals - can&#039;t wait to see that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scientific process will blow away Renwick&#8217;s view and the NIWA 7SS eventually. He hasn&#8217;t addressed the relative merits of the NZCSET and NIWA series yet in a clinical scientific way but he will have to eventually.</p>
<p>And Dr Mullen will have to inform us all on why he should be considered a statistician with expertise of more repute than 3 professionals &#8211; can&#8217;t wait to see that.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegation/comment-page-1/#comment-116051</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 23:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Spokesperson for the group, Associate Professor James Renwick of Victoria University said he was pleased that the court had respected and reaffirmed the credibility of the scientific process. It was a strong message to those wanting to challenge widely-agreed scientific findings to do so honestly and openly in scientific forums. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There is a slightly Orwellian feel to this statement. 
What is the scientific process?
How do we challenge the scientific findings?
Where was the peer-review?</description>
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Spokesperson for the group, Associate Professor James Renwick of Victoria University said he was pleased that the court had respected and reaffirmed the credibility of the scientific process. It was a strong message to those wanting to challenge widely-agreed scientific findings to do so honestly and openly in scientific forums.
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<p>There is a slightly Orwellian feel to this statement.<br />
What is the scientific process?<br />
How do we challenge the scientific findings?<br />
Where was the peer-review?</p>
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		<title>By: High Court ruled on integrity – not science &#124; Open Parachute</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegation/comment-page-1/#comment-116050</link>
		<dc:creator>High Court ruled on integrity – not science &#124; Open Parachute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 23:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Of course, those in denial are now trying to claim victory because no ruling was made on the temperature record itself (it wasn&#8217;t considered so couldn&#8217;t be ruled on) and getting all falsely indignant because others have pointed out that in effect they were charging that NIWA had acted fraudulently and this had been rejected (see “Leading climate scientists” make false allegation). [...] &lt;p class=&quot;note&quot;&gt;Does anyone want to go and tell this clown that we&#039;re not claiming victory?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Of course, those in denial are now trying to claim victory because no ruling was made on the temperature record itself (it wasn&#8217;t considered so couldn&#8217;t be ruled on) and getting all falsely indignant because others have pointed out that in effect they were charging that NIWA had acted fraudulently and this had been rejected (see “Leading climate scientists” make false allegation). [...]
<p class="note">Does anyone want to go and tell this clown that we&#8217;re not claiming victory?</p>
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		<title>By: Angee</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegation/comment-page-1/#comment-115953</link>
		<dc:creator>Angee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 08:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My view on this entire case is that NIWA have been discredited by the publicity highlighting this case and noone believes their tainted lies. They are revolting just as ACC establishment is they are rotten to the core! [Too extreme, Angee - capital punishment has ended. - RT]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My view on this entire case is that NIWA have been discredited by the publicity highlighting this case and noone believes their tainted lies. They are revolting just as ACC establishment is they are rotten to the core! [Too extreme, Angee - capital punishment has ended. - RT]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Treadgold</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/09/leading-climate-scientists-make-false-allegation/comment-page-1/#comment-115931</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That decision was so influenced. What does &quot;moderation-ho&quot; mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That decision was so influenced. What does &#8220;moderation-ho&#8221; mean?</p>
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