Climate Conversation Group

Taking the heat out of global warming

For the first time in history, people shouting “the end is nigh” are somehow
the sane ones, while those of us who say it is not are now the lunatics.

  • rss
  • Home
  • Open threads
    • Climate – how to use open threads
      • Meteorology
      • Global warming
      • Climate science
        • Climate Models
        • Papers
        • Atmosphere
        • Temperature records
        • Energy and fuel
        • Solar
        • Ocean heat content
        • Radiation, radiative imbalance
        • Sea levels
        • Ocean acidification
        • Polar regions, glaciers and ice
      • Regions
        • Europe
        • Asia
        • South America
        • Africa
        • Australia
        • UK
        • USA
        • Pacific
        • New Zealand
      • News
      • Controversy and scandal
        • Skeptical Science
      • Disproving AGW
      • Economics
    • Politics
      • ETS and carbon taxes
    • UN
      • IPCC organisation
      • IPCC politics
      • IPCC science
      • NIPCC
  • Opinion polls
    • SckSckSck
    • Your view of CO2
    • Collective noun for icebergs
    • Stop the ETS
  • Climate of Freedom Tour
  • Files
    • Climate Realists
      • Newsletter #17 6 May 2010
      • Newsletter #16 28 Apr 2010
      • Newsletter #6 11 Feb 2010
      • Newsletter #4 2011
    • News releases
      • February 8, 2010
      • December 20, 2010
    • Wind turbine failures
  • About

EU: strengthen energy, not useless climate targets

Richard Treadgold | October 6, 2012

from The Global Warming Policy Foundation

Financial Times Deutschland, 5 October 2012

The EU Energy Commissioner opposes a tightening of the EU’s climate targets. Instead, energy policy should focus more closely on the needs of European industry. In Berlin, Günther Oettinger made jokes about the green “do-gooders” in his own party.

Günther Oettinger fears the decline of Europe if energy prices continue to rise and competitiveness deteriorates further compared to the United States and other parts of the world. He wants to convince his colleagues in the European Commission to introduce an industrial policy objective instead of new climate targets. At a meeting of the European Christian Democrats (EPP) in Berlin last night, Oettinger said the share that manufacturing contributes to the GDP of the economies of the EU should increase from currently 18 percent to 20 percent. Within the European Commission, he is fighting for a corresponding definition.

His appearance before a few dozen party members in Berlin’s Adlon Hotel was a day of reckoning with the EU’s energy and climate policies. Energy policy had long been climate policy, he said, but in the future it must be industrial policy. Addressing MEPs in the hall, he said that he stood by the EU’s 2007 agreed climate targets of 20 per cent reduction in CO2 emissions and a 20 percent share of renewable energies. These objectives would be achieved.

“I strongly advise against more stringent targets after 2020″, Oettinger said. During the years 2007 to 2009, there had been too many “do-gooders” in the European Parliament and climate policy enthusiasm had become excessive. It was useless “to go to Greenland and hug polar bears,” said the CDU politician. German Chancellor Angela Merkel had visited Greenland in August 2007 as part of her climate policy and had been photographed in front of melting icebergs.

Oettinger said that with regards to energy prices the score was three – nil to the United States. The U.S. had increased its own oil production, had become a bigger gas producer than Russia thanks to its shale gas supplies and had lower electricity prices. Because of looming energy independence, in future the United States may have less interest in the security of North Africa. “Without the U.S., the EU member states would have to police the world instead.” In this context, the German decision regarding Libya was not a convincing example. Merkel had decided in 2011 not to participate in the intervention by the U.S. and European countries in favour of the rebels against the dictator Muammar Gaddafi. The former Prime Minister of Baden-Württemberg asked, incidentally, if the European military was prepared for a future without the U.S. “Rifle associations and fire brigades are stronger than the German army”, Oettinger remarked.

Oettinger’s commitment to industrial interests was met with approval from industry representatives. Peter Willbrandt of copper producer Aurubis said that industry was suffering from massive government interventions. Thyssen Krupp boss Heinrich Hiesinger warned of job losses caused by rising prices for CO2 emissions.

There are sympathies in the EPP Group for the position of Oettinger and for the industry. During the economic crisis, environmental standards should not be raised, said group leader Joseph Daul – this was the only way to secure jobs.

In his speech, Oettinger also complained at the relapse of the EU in terms of research and development. In 2010, only the Finnish mobile phone manufacturer Nokia had been among the world’s leading research-oriented companies. “Nokia is not likely to assert itself in the long term in the market,” Oettinger said.

Translation Philipp Mueller

Categories
General
Tags
Climate policy, Energy policy, Europe, Germany, GWPF
Comments rss
Comments rss
Trackback
Trackback

« Coming climate clouded but present panic pretty plain Britain facing blackouts »

One Response to “EU: strengthen energy, not useless climate targets”

  1. Richard C (NZ) says:
    October 6, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    Two telling snippets, the first dispelling any idea that Germany was ever anything other than an industrial powerhouse:-

    “….policy had long been climate policy…..but in the future it must be industrial policy”

    The second a lesson in cutting off your nose to spite your face:-

    “….job losses caused by rising prices for CO2 emissions”

    Reply

Leave a Reply

Click here to cancel reply.

buy FastProof now

          • Climate Conversation Group •
   • more than 1,400,000 visits a year
   • over 7,600,000 hits a year
               — join the Conversation —

Hot off the press

  • Painting wanting rebuttal
  • Emotional knowledge
  • Global warming less than we thought
  • Climate porkies from TV One
  • Renwick doesn’t blame AGW for drought
  • Renowden a scaring warmist
  • Hide sticks it to Renwick
  • The incredibly elusive absolute surface air temperature
  • Faults, fallacies and failures of wind power
  • For real striving, give up the driving
  • Cost to ‘restore climate’ a game-changer
  • Signs of strain in justifying climate predictions
  • Is the game nearly over
  • IPCC created and controlled by activists
  • Policy: politicians write it but scientists incite it
  • The industry of denial
  • Lord Monckton complains to VUW
  • Climate forecasts fulfilled or what?
  • Snip-it
  • Forget prosperity, we need the extra tree

Latest comments

  • Richard C (NZ) on Renwick doesn’t blame AGW for drought
  • Richard C (NZ) on Painting wanting rebuttal
  • David on Renwick doesn’t blame AGW for drought
  • Richard C (NZ) on Painting wanting rebuttal
  • Mike Jowsey on Emotional knowledge
  • Richard C (NZ) on Painting wanting rebuttal
  • Mike Jowsey on Emotional knowledge
  • Mike Jowsey on Emotional knowledge
  • Andy on Global warming less than we thought
  • Andy on Global warming less than we thought
  • Bob D on Painting wanting rebuttal
  • Richard C (NZ) on Painting wanting rebuttal
  • Andy on Renwick doesn’t blame AGW for drought
  • Richard Treadgold on Renwick doesn’t blame AGW for drought
  • Richard C (NZ) on Renwick doesn’t blame AGW for drought
  • Andy on Renwick doesn’t blame AGW for drought
  • Bob D on Painting wanting rebuttal
  • Richard C (NZ) on Painting wanting rebuttal
  • David on Renwick doesn’t blame AGW for drought
  • Bob D on Painting wanting rebuttal

PayPal Tip Jar
Even a couple of dollars helps us
(if you're in the mood). Thanks!


Click to get your own widget

Tags

Activists AGW Air temperature Air temperature Alarmists Alternative energy Australia Carbon dioxide Carbon Sense Carbon trading CCG blog Christopher Monckton Climate Conversation Group Climate research Climate Science Court action Data quality Disproving AGW Economics Energy supply Environmentalism ETS General Global temperature Global warming Hot Topic IPCC Journalism New Zealand NIWA NIWAgate NZCSC NZ Herald NZ temperature records Oceans Politics Royal Society Sceptics Science bias Scientists Sea levels United Nations USA Watts Up With That What is the evidence

Admin

  • Log in
  • Entries RSS
  • Comments RSS
  • WordPress.org

Climate change links

  • Bishop Hill
  • Carbon Sense Coalition
  • Climate Audit—a science blog
  • Climate Debate Daily
  • Climate Depot
  • Climate Etc. (Judith Curry)
  • Climate Realists
  • Global warming at a glance
  • Jo Nova
  • Kiwi Thinker
  • NZ Climate Science Coalition
  • Science of Doom
  • Watts Up With That

 

October 2012
M T W T F S S
« Sep   Nov »
1234567
891011121314
15161718192021
22232425262728
293031  

Previous posts

Oil prices

models v. reality
Latest climate models v. reality

As the models continue to leave actual temperature readings in their dust, sizeable warming halted about 1995 — although it might resume at any time. It must hasten to have any hope of catching up with the predictions.

If you claim warming continues, we want evidence of continued warming — eminently reasonable. Making us wait for 17 years for that evidence invites us to doubt you.

Claiming that warming hasn't stopped is the same as claiming it has — and both are ridiculous, for nobody knows the future. The best you can do is describe the past.

Click graph for larger version.

 

rss Comments rss valid xhtml 1.1 design by jide powered by Wordpress get firefox