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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/climate-conversation-traffic-sets-records/comment-page-1/#comment-143404</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&quot;By contrast, free-spending, time-rich Dinky couples (double income, no kids yet), are the most likely to be able to lessen their footprints.&quot;

They do this by strapping mountain bikes to the back of their eco-friendly low-emission SUV (not excluding VW V12 Toureg diesels or Porsche Cayennes of course).

This provides the environmental immunity necessary when venturing beyond the urban fringe while demonstrating environmental awareness and concern for the planet. Not your average Japanese import 4x4 clunker for them, no siree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&#8221;By contrast, free-spending, time-rich Dinky couples (double income, no kids yet), are the most likely to be able to lessen their footprints.&#8221;</p>
<p>They do this by strapping mountain bikes to the back of their eco-friendly low-emission SUV (not excluding VW V12 Toureg diesels or Porsche Cayennes of course).</p>
<p>This provides the environmental immunity necessary when venturing beyond the urban fringe while demonstrating environmental awareness and concern for the planet. Not your average Japanese import 4&#215;4 clunker for them, no siree.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/climate-conversation-traffic-sets-records/comment-page-1/#comment-143376</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic, but weapon grade stuff from university of Canterbury

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/7940386/Carbon-footprint-study-examines-solo-mums</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic, but weapon grade stuff from university of Canterbury</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/7940386/Carbon-footprint-study-examines-solo-mums" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/7940386/Carbon-footprint-study-examines-solo-mums</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/climate-conversation-traffic-sets-records/comment-page-1/#comment-140670</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 08:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regrettably for the global warming religion, its predictions have started to appear shaky, and the converts, many of whom have lost their jobs and much of their wealth, are losing faith. Worse, heretic scientists have been giving the lie to many of the prophecies described in the IPCC bible. They could not be silenced. Believers in man-made global warming are declining. It will require an extraordinary crusade presaging even direr climate consequences for defying the warmist faith, before defectors even contemplate rejoining the religion. If that fails it may be time to burn sceptics at the stake. But then that would increase CO2 emissions. A dilemma, to be sure. --Maurice Newman, The Australian, 5 November 2012</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regrettably for the global warming religion, its predictions have started to appear shaky, and the converts, many of whom have lost their jobs and much of their wealth, are losing faith. Worse, heretic scientists have been giving the lie to many of the prophecies described in the IPCC bible. They could not be silenced. Believers in man-made global warming are declining. It will require an extraordinary crusade presaging even direr climate consequences for defying the warmist faith, before defectors even contemplate rejoining the religion. If that fails it may be time to burn sceptics at the stake. But then that would increase CO2 emissions. A dilemma, to be sure. &#8211;Maurice Newman, The Australian, 5 November 2012</p>
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		<title>By: Magoo</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/climate-conversation-traffic-sets-records/comment-page-1/#comment-140663</link>
		<dc:creator>Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 07:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to laugh. Faith? Now that&#039;s rich coming from someone with no evidence to back their claims. Well if it&#039;s faith then you must have some evidence to the contrary Brandoch. What is that evidence again Brandoch?

I have measurements from 2 satellites, over 30,000,000 radiosondes, and temperature records that confirm these findings, all peer-reivewed - what do you have? Surely your evidence must exist as it&#039;s supposed to be &#039;overwhelming&#039;, maybe you can educate us with this evidence. I keep asking but nobody ever seems to know where it is. Maybe you know where it is Brandoch - be a buddy and help us all out, for the sake of the AGW cause at least. Maybe it&#039;s a polar bear, or a melting Himalayan glacier, or maybe a storm, or some rain, or some wind, or a bit of dust.

If you don&#039;t have evidence then what do you have - faith. Where is the evidence Brandoch? Hot spot? Positive water vapour feedback? No? Like you said, there are none so blind as those who will not see. Now, where&#039;s this evidence showing your 20/20 vision Brandoch? Hmmm? In order to see there must be something to see - help us all out and show us Brandoch, since your vision is so clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to laugh. Faith? Now that&#8217;s rich coming from someone with no evidence to back their claims. Well if it&#8217;s faith then you must have some evidence to the contrary Brandoch. What is that evidence again Brandoch?</p>
<p>I have measurements from 2 satellites, over 30,000,000 radiosondes, and temperature records that confirm these findings, all peer-reivewed &#8211; what do you have? Surely your evidence must exist as it&#8217;s supposed to be &#8216;overwhelming&#8217;, maybe you can educate us with this evidence. I keep asking but nobody ever seems to know where it is. Maybe you know where it is Brandoch &#8211; be a buddy and help us all out, for the sake of the AGW cause at least. Maybe it&#8217;s a polar bear, or a melting Himalayan glacier, or maybe a storm, or some rain, or some wind, or a bit of dust.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t have evidence then what do you have &#8211; faith. Where is the evidence Brandoch? Hot spot? Positive water vapour feedback? No? Like you said, there are none so blind as those who will not see. Now, where&#8217;s this evidence showing your 20/20 vision Brandoch? Hmmm? In order to see there must be something to see &#8211; help us all out and show us Brandoch, since your vision is so clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/climate-conversation-traffic-sets-records/comment-page-1/#comment-140650</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 07:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&quot;...your absurd faith&quot;

The absurd faith is entirely a warmist trait since planetary temperatures went into hiatus Brando, The doctrine of warmism is the dogma of man-made climate change cultism. Those denying the doctrine are the heretics who must be expunged if the faith-based but deluded cult is to continue unopposed.

Unfortunately for the warmists, entire countries are abandoning dogma, doctrine and dues. New Zealand looks to be moving in that direction thankfully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&#8221;&#8230;your absurd faith&#8221;</p>
<p>The absurd faith is entirely a warmist trait since planetary temperatures went into hiatus Brando, The doctrine of warmism is the dogma of man-made climate change cultism. Those denying the doctrine are the heretics who must be expunged if the faith-based but deluded cult is to continue unopposed.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for the warmists, entire countries are abandoning dogma, doctrine and dues. New Zealand looks to be moving in that direction thankfully.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandoch Daha</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/climate-conversation-traffic-sets-records/comment-page-1/#comment-140630</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandoch Daha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 06:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Magoo, there are none so blind as those who refuse to see.... you and your absurd faith are first to be pitied, then rendered irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magoo, there are none so blind as those who refuse to see&#8230;. you and your absurd faith are first to be pitied, then rendered irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Magoo</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/climate-conversation-traffic-sets-records/comment-page-1/#comment-140605</link>
		<dc:creator>Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 05:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ETS is dead because AGW theory is dead. Why tax people for a theory that empirical evidence from multiple sources has proven a failure? That&#039;s just dumb, unless of course there is some evidence for AGW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ETS is dead because AGW theory is dead. Why tax people for a theory that empirical evidence from multiple sources has proven a failure? That&#8217;s just dumb, unless of course there is some evidence for AGW.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/climate-conversation-traffic-sets-records/comment-page-1/#comment-140593</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 04:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&quot;....get ourselves a proper Carbon Tax&quot;

ANOTHER tax? Why? What for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&#8221;&#8230;.get ourselves a proper Carbon Tax&#8221;</p>
<p>ANOTHER tax? Why? What for?</p>
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		<title>By: Brandoch Daha</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/climate-conversation-traffic-sets-records/comment-page-1/#comment-140530</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandoch Daha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 01:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ETS is dead, it&#039;s time to chuck out the Nats and get ourselves a proper Carbon Tax.

My kids are worth it. What about yours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ETS is dead, it&#8217;s time to chuck out the Nats and get ourselves a proper Carbon Tax.</p>
<p>My kids are worth it. What about yours?</p>
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		<title>By: Magoo</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/climate-conversation-traffic-sets-records/comment-page-1/#comment-140521</link>
		<dc:creator>Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 01:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American politics aren&#039;t really important. What is important is that New Zealand are pulling out of the Kyoto protocol at the end of the year, and it looks like the scheme is going to collapse:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/02/newzealand-carbon-idUSL3E8LP1E220121102

It won&#039;t be long before the ETS will be thrown on the scrapheap as well. Those that invested in forestry because they thought they could make some money on the backs of the taxpayer are about to lose some money big time. I&#039;m sure the socialists will be dancing in the streets when the &#039;rich pricks&#039; lose their money.

&#039;Unlimited imports of the offsets have driven the price of NZUs to NZ$2.50 ($2.06) a tonne, down from NZ$20 18 months ago.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American politics aren&#8217;t really important. What is important is that New Zealand are pulling out of the Kyoto protocol at the end of the year, and it looks like the scheme is going to collapse:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/02/newzealand-carbon-idUSL3E8LP1E220121102" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/02/newzealand-carbon-idUSL3E8LP1E220121102</a></p>
<p>It won&#8217;t be long before the ETS will be thrown on the scrapheap as well. Those that invested in forestry because they thought they could make some money on the backs of the taxpayer are about to lose some money big time. I&#8217;m sure the socialists will be dancing in the streets when the &#8216;rich pricks&#8217; lose their money.</p>
<p>&#8216;Unlimited imports of the offsets have driven the price of NZUs to NZ$2.50 ($2.06) a tonne, down from NZ$20 18 months ago.&#8217;</p>
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