<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: NZCSET &#8211; mischievous or sensible?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/</link>
	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 19:51:01 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/comment-page-1/#comment-152939</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=15649#comment-152939</guid>
		<description>You could try my &lt;a href=&quot;http://hot-topic.co.nz/the-twilight-zone/#comment-35596&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;questions&lt;/a&gt; on the apparent wind farm de-rating scam as a rare exercise in self-restraint (for me)

Note that technical discussions about wind turbine design are now in &quot;the Twilight Zone&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could try my <a href="http://hot-topic.co.nz/the-twilight-zone/#comment-35596" rel="nofollow">questions</a> on the apparent wind farm de-rating scam as a rare exercise in self-restraint (for me)</p>
<p>Note that technical discussions about wind turbine design are now in &#8220;the Twilight Zone&#8221;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard Treadgold</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/comment-page-1/#comment-152931</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=15649#comment-152931</guid>
		<description>I agree, Huub. In trying situations I, too, become biased towards my friends, despite strenuous attempts at neutrality. &quot;Brandoch&quot; does all he can to unbalance us.

Thanks for the admonishment, because it&#039;s exactly those silent visitors we want to inform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Huub. In trying situations I, too, become biased towards my friends, despite strenuous attempts at neutrality. &#8220;Brandoch&#8221; does all he can to unbalance us.</p>
<p>Thanks for the admonishment, because it&#8217;s exactly those silent visitors we want to inform.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/comment-page-1/#comment-152926</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=15649#comment-152926</guid>
		<description>&gt;&quot;..when Richard C accused Brandoch of lying&quot;

All I did was copy Brandoch&#039;s comment from here:-

http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/comment-page-1/#comment-150580

And substituted &quot;Bob&quot; for &quot;Brando&quot; to highlight Brando&#039;s line-of-attack i.e. to give back EXACTLY what he&#039;s dishing out. 

I see RT has moderated Brando&#039;s initial comment so the situation has been resolved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&#8221;..when Richard C accused Brandoch of lying&#8221;</p>
<p>All I did was copy Brandoch&#8217;s comment from here:-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/comment-page-1/#comment-150580" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/comment-page-1/#comment-150580</a></p>
<p>And substituted &#8220;Bob&#8221; for &#8220;Brando&#8221; to highlight Brando&#8217;s line-of-attack i.e. to give back EXACTLY what he&#8217;s dishing out. </p>
<p>I see RT has moderated Brando&#8217;s initial comment so the situation has been resolved.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/comment-page-1/#comment-152925</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=15649#comment-152925</guid>
		<description>I think one issue, and I am guilty of this too, is that these threads seem to degenerate into open threads, usually involving questions like &quot;has there been any warming in the last 16 years&quot;, or &quot;is the Antarctic actually melting&quot;

Aside from the sniping, these kind of discussions are penetrable only to the people in the discussion, and would be better off directed to an open thread 

The issue of the legal status of the NZCSET might actually be of interest to outsiders, but hardly any of that has been discussed on this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one issue, and I am guilty of this too, is that these threads seem to degenerate into open threads, usually involving questions like &#8220;has there been any warming in the last 16 years&#8221;, or &#8220;is the Antarctic actually melting&#8221;</p>
<p>Aside from the sniping, these kind of discussions are penetrable only to the people in the discussion, and would be better off directed to an open thread </p>
<p>The issue of the legal status of the NZCSET might actually be of interest to outsiders, but hardly any of that has been discussed on this thread.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Huub Bakker</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/comment-page-1/#comment-152899</link>
		<dc:creator>Huub Bakker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=15649#comment-152899</guid>
		<description>Guys,

Much as Brandoch may throw unsubstantiated statements and ad hominums around, the responses are also laden with ad hominum attacks. This hardly does anyone on this website any favours. 

Richard Treadgold, I see that you slapped Brandoch over the knuckles for calling people liars but then didn&#039;t do the same when Richard C accused Brandoch of lying.

I enjoy reading a good discussion of the facts and putting people in their place using facts and references but we really could do without the abuse from both sides. Please enforce politeness and respect on both sides Richard. People coming to this site to be informed would be horrified with the slanging that is currently going on here and might conclude that sceptics are no better than alarmists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,</p>
<p>Much as Brandoch may throw unsubstantiated statements and ad hominums around, the responses are also laden with ad hominum attacks. This hardly does anyone on this website any favours. </p>
<p>Richard Treadgold, I see that you slapped Brandoch over the knuckles for calling people liars but then didn&#8217;t do the same when Richard C accused Brandoch of lying.</p>
<p>I enjoy reading a good discussion of the facts and putting people in their place using facts and references but we really could do without the abuse from both sides. Please enforce politeness and respect on both sides Richard. People coming to this site to be informed would be horrified with the slanging that is currently going on here and might conclude that sceptics are no better than alarmists.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard Treadgold</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/comment-page-1/#comment-151626</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=15649#comment-151626</guid>
		<description>Nasty! (In the new sense, meaning nice.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nasty! (In the new sense, meaning nice.)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/comment-page-1/#comment-151512</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=15649#comment-151512</guid>
		<description>And people pushing asbestos, and drug pushers. 

The Marxist/totalitarian/centralist activists (Williams, Lewandowsky, Figueres et al) leave no doubt now that they&#039;re simply opportunists piggy-backing climate change to further their cause.

And they&#039;ll stoop to any level to get there as evidenced by their forebears, until it all goes wrong when an arch opportunist seizes ultimate power. History is replete with the despotism and tyranny that ensues from that scenario - why repeat it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And people pushing asbestos, and drug pushers. </p>
<p>The Marxist/totalitarian/centralist activists (Williams, Lewandowsky, Figueres et al) leave no doubt now that they&#8217;re simply opportunists piggy-backing climate change to further their cause.</p>
<p>And they&#8217;ll stoop to any level to get there as evidenced by their forebears, until it all goes wrong when an arch opportunist seizes ultimate power. History is replete with the despotism and tyranny that ensues from that scenario &#8211; why repeat it?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/comment-page-1/#comment-151099</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 07:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=15649#comment-151099</guid>
		<description>But now the Liberal set in Aussie find it Ok to refer to skeptics likened to pedophiles


Oh dear 

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/11/breaking-skeptics-are-like-paedophiles-drug-robyn-williams-abc-time-to-protest/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But now the Liberal set in Aussie find it Ok to refer to skeptics likened to pedophiles</p>
<p>Oh dear </p>
<p><a href="http://joannenova.com.au/2012/11/breaking-skeptics-are-like-paedophiles-drug-robyn-williams-abc-time-to-protest/" rel="nofollow">http://joannenova.com.au/2012/11/breaking-skeptics-are-like-paedophiles-drug-robyn-williams-abc-time-to-protest/</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/comment-page-1/#comment-151077</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 06:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=15649#comment-151077</guid>
		<description>Then go back to Hot Topic Rob, you will find a more accommodating audience there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then go back to Hot Topic Rob, you will find a more accommodating audience there.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brandoch Daha</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2012/11/nzcset-mischievous-or-sensible/comment-page-1/#comment-150929</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandoch Daha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 02:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=15649#comment-150929</guid>
		<description>What a rebarbative little bastion of ignorance for the morally repugnant this site is!

&lt;p class=&quot;note&quot;&gt;I must say, BD, that the only morally repugnant acts are by those casting bitter aspersions without explaining why, accompanied by a determined deafness when asked questions. Go away.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a rebarbative little bastion of ignorance for the morally repugnant this site is!</p>
<p class="note">I must say, BD, that the only morally repugnant acts are by those casting bitter aspersions without explaining why, accompanied by a determined deafness when asked questions. Go away.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
