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	<title>Comments on: Greens about-face on Tasmania safety burn-offs</title>
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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>By: clive hoskin</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/01/greens-about-face-on-tasmania-safety-burn-offs/comment-page-1/#comment-178041</link>
		<dc:creator>clive hoskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Queensland and many years ago, they stopped the Forestry from doing controlled burn-offs. I and my family got caught in a fire between Landsborough and Bribie Island, because of the Greens interference in something they have no knowledge of. Anyone taking any notice of what they say has a fool for a friend! They must be eliminated from office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Queensland and many years ago, they stopped the Forestry from doing controlled burn-offs. I and my family got caught in a fire between Landsborough and Bribie Island, because of the Greens interference in something they have no knowledge of. Anyone taking any notice of what they say has a fool for a friend! They must be eliminated from office.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/01/greens-about-face-on-tasmania-safety-burn-offs/comment-page-1/#comment-166735</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bush fires also get a mention in the Herald&#039;s latest piece on GW, 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=10858595&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Editorial: If this is global warming, we&#039;re all in it together&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bush fires also get a mention in the Herald&#8217;s latest piece on GW, </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=10858595" rel="nofollow">Editorial: If this is global warming, we&#8217;re all in it together</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/01/greens-about-face-on-tasmania-safety-burn-offs/comment-page-1/#comment-166723</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Green tape&quot; - that&#039;s a new one on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Green tape&#8221; &#8211; that&#8217;s a new one on me.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/01/greens-about-face-on-tasmania-safety-burn-offs/comment-page-1/#comment-166715</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 22:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another article by Miranda Devine in the Telegraph

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/mirandadevine/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/lets_tell_the_burning_truth_about_bushfires_and_the_alp_greens_coalition&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stop telling bushfire victims to shut up&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
 The Greens have developed a new set of “aims” including a caveat-studded “effective and sustainable strategy for fuel-reduction management”.

In practice, on the ground, it amounts to covert opposition. Williams scoffs at the Orwellian sophistry: “They publicly say they support it. The reality of how it pans out is nothing like that. Greens have two faces and underneath they are undermining everything.”

While there have been improvements under a new state government, Williams says hazard reduction is still inadequate across NSW, reaching just 1 per cent rather than the 5 per cent minimum recommended by the Victorian bushfire inquiry. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another article by Miranda Devine in the Telegraph</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/mirandadevine/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/lets_tell_the_burning_truth_about_bushfires_and_the_alp_greens_coalition" rel="nofollow">Stop telling bushfire victims to shut up</a></p>
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 The Greens have developed a new set of “aims” including a caveat-studded “effective and sustainable strategy for fuel-reduction management”.</p>
<p>In practice, on the ground, it amounts to covert opposition. Williams scoffs at the Orwellian sophistry: “They publicly say they support it. The reality of how it pans out is nothing like that. Greens have two faces and underneath they are undermining everything.”</p>
<p>While there have been improvements under a new state government, Williams says hazard reduction is still inadequate across NSW, reaching just 1 per cent rather than the 5 per cent minimum recommended by the Victorian bushfire inquiry.
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/01/greens-about-face-on-tasmania-safety-burn-offs/comment-page-1/#comment-165883</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tassie Green &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/NickMcKim/posts/10151168064002056&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Facebook page&lt;/a&gt; is a treasure trove

This comment caught my attention:
(Speaking of Christine Milne)
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 Her stance when I spoke to her was super extreme and bordered crazy. I wish I recorded it because it was quite wild. We covered a variety of topics but summing up, people shouldn&#039;t be allowed near forests for any reason, selective logging, tourism, forest management all big no no&#039;s. Then she started about how great one child policy is and how we should adopt that here in Australia. With her as party leader I find it hard to begin to support the greens despite what good things they can and have achieved. Unfortunately the few politicians i&#039;ve had the chance to speak to seem just as bat shit crazy and stubborn
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tassie Green <a href="http://www.facebook.com/NickMcKim/posts/10151168064002056" rel="nofollow">Facebook page</a> is a treasure trove</p>
<p>This comment caught my attention:<br />
(Speaking of Christine Milne)</p>
<blockquote><p>
 Her stance when I spoke to her was super extreme and bordered crazy. I wish I recorded it because it was quite wild. We covered a variety of topics but summing up, people shouldn&#8217;t be allowed near forests for any reason, selective logging, tourism, forest management all big no no&#8217;s. Then she started about how great one child policy is and how we should adopt that here in Australia. With her as party leader I find it hard to begin to support the greens despite what good things they can and have achieved. Unfortunately the few politicians i&#8217;ve had the chance to speak to seem just as bat shit crazy and stubborn
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/01/greens-about-face-on-tasmania-safety-burn-offs/comment-page-1/#comment-165869</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My enquiry on the Green&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.facebook.com/tasmaniangreens/posts/486102551433240&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Facebook page&lt;/a&gt; led to this page
 
http://greens.org.au/policies/environment/environmental-principles

Specifically 13 and 14:

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 Rigorous evidence based bushfire research that considers the use of fire, and best environmental and fire risk minimization in building practices.

An effective and sustainable strategy for fuel-reduction management that will protect biodiversity and moderate the effects of wildfire for the protection of people and assets, developed in consultation with experts, custodians and land managers
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My enquiry on the Green&#8217;s <a href="https://www.facebook.com/tasmaniangreens/posts/486102551433240" rel="nofollow">Facebook page</a> led to this page</p>
<p><a href="http://greens.org.au/policies/environment/environmental-principles" rel="nofollow">http://greens.org.au/policies/environment/environmental-principles</a></p>
<p>Specifically 13 and 14:</p>
<blockquote><p>
 Rigorous evidence based bushfire research that considers the use of fire, and best environmental and fire risk minimization in building practices.</p>
<p>An effective and sustainable strategy for fuel-reduction management that will protect biodiversity and moderate the effects of wildfire for the protection of people and assets, developed in consultation with experts, custodians and land managers
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/01/greens-about-face-on-tasmania-safety-burn-offs/comment-page-1/#comment-165859</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furthermore, the letter in The Age also seem to be in favour of the fraud

http://www.theage.com.au/national/letters/which-crime-is-the-more-serious-20130109-2cgof.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furthermore, the letter in The Age also seem to be in favour of the fraud</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/national/letters/which-crime-is-the-more-serious-20130109-2cgof.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/national/letters/which-crime-is-the-more-serious-20130109-2cgof.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/01/greens-about-face-on-tasmania-safety-burn-offs/comment-page-1/#comment-165857</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should hardly be surprised at anything from the Australian Greens as they are now publicly endorsing criminal and fraudulent behavior.

Anti-coal activist Jonathan Moylan made a hoax press release from ANZ stating that &quot;the bank had pulled $1.2 billion in funding from Whitehaven’s Maules Creek project due to environmental and social concerns&quot;

This hoax has caused about $300 million to be wiped off the companies value, not to mention pension funds, Mum and Dad investors etc.

However, Christine Milne, supports the hoax, stating this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Greens leader Christine Milne and Greens Senator Lee Rhiannon have backed Mr Moylan, with Ms Milne telling Fairfax media that his hoax was “part of long and proud history of civil disobedience, potentially breaking the law, to highlight something wrong”.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/asic-seizes-jonathan-moylans-phone-pc-amid-whitehave-hoax-probe/story-fn91v9q3-1226550074368</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should hardly be surprised at anything from the Australian Greens as they are now publicly endorsing criminal and fraudulent behavior.</p>
<p>Anti-coal activist Jonathan Moylan made a hoax press release from ANZ stating that &#8220;the bank had pulled $1.2 billion in funding from Whitehaven’s Maules Creek project due to environmental and social concerns&#8221;</p>
<p>This hoax has caused about $300 million to be wiped off the companies value, not to mention pension funds, Mum and Dad investors etc.</p>
<p>However, Christine Milne, supports the hoax, stating this:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Greens leader Christine Milne and Greens Senator Lee Rhiannon have backed Mr Moylan, with Ms Milne telling Fairfax media that his hoax was “part of long and proud history of civil disobedience, potentially breaking the law, to highlight something wrong”.
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/asic-seizes-jonathan-moylans-phone-pc-amid-whitehave-hoax-probe/story-fn91v9q3-1226550074368" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/asic-seizes-jonathan-moylans-phone-pc-amid-whitehave-hoax-probe/story-fn91v9q3-1226550074368</a></p>
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