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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>By: Magoo</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/02/cooking-up-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-177178</link>
		<dc:creator>Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve often wondered whether openparachute would be better off as a facebook page, that way it might have a wider audience than 2 people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve often wondered whether openparachute would be better off as a facebook page, that way it might have a wider audience than 2 people.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/02/cooking-up-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-177170</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 00:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what is it Ken? Do you want me to drop by your &quot;science&quot; blog and litter it with profanities so you can link back to it later?

A simple yes or no will do Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what is it Ken? Do you want me to drop by your &#8220;science&#8221; blog and litter it with profanities so you can link back to it later?</p>
<p>A simple yes or no will do Ken</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/02/cooking-up-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-177167</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 00:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh thanks Ken. I really appreciate that link. As I have said before, I do stand by everything that I say against you and the sanctimonious semi-literates that hover around NZ &quot;science&quot; blogs.

So if you wish to hover around here like a bad smell then I would be more than happy to infest your blog once again with foul and intemperate language.

By the way Ken, have you had a word with Pachauri who seems to think that there has been a pause in global warming for 17 years. Or do you think that &quot;deniers&quot; having misquoted him? 

It must be hard for you Ken, having no one visit your &quot;science&quot; blog, then you have to come over here, run hit pieces on me to drum up support so your skinheads Richard Christie and Cedric Katesby can  have a little fun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh thanks Ken. I really appreciate that link. As I have said before, I do stand by everything that I say against you and the sanctimonious semi-literates that hover around NZ &#8220;science&#8221; blogs.</p>
<p>So if you wish to hover around here like a bad smell then I would be more than happy to infest your blog once again with foul and intemperate language.</p>
<p>By the way Ken, have you had a word with Pachauri who seems to think that there has been a pause in global warming for 17 years. Or do you think that &#8220;deniers&#8221; having misquoted him? </p>
<p>It must be hard for you Ken, having no one visit your &#8220;science&#8221; blog, then you have to come over here, run hit pieces on me to drum up support so your skinheads Richard Christie and Cedric Katesby can  have a little fun</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/02/cooking-up-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-177166</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Andy - the link was to identify you, not the blog post. I wrote:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;So we get this sort of thing being promoted by climate change deniers (thanks to &lt;a href=&quot;http://sciblogs.co.nz/open-parachute/2012/11/22/climate-change-deniers-dont-understand-expertise/comment-page-3/#comment-6877&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Andy&lt;/a&gt; for this one). Didn&#039;t someone say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing? And isn&#039;t cherry picking a great way of restricting knowledge?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Just wanted to give people a taste of your arguments.

I have changed the link so that it is more appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Andy &#8211; the link was to identify you, not the blog post. I wrote:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;So we get this sort of thing being promoted by climate change deniers (thanks to <a href="http://sciblogs.co.nz/open-parachute/2012/11/22/climate-change-deniers-dont-understand-expertise/comment-page-3/#comment-6877" rel="nofollow">Andy</a> for this one). Didn&#8217;t someone say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing? And isn&#8217;t cherry picking a great way of restricting knowledge?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Just wanted to give people a taste of your arguments.</p>
<p>I have changed the link so that it is more appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard C (NZ)</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/02/cooking-up-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-177160</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard C (NZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken&#039;s reasoning being based on the assumption that GCM&#039;s are all realisticallly parameterized. Given the 21st century GO from them he might like to think about the possibility of GI. And the fact that one of only two institutions to actually mimic 21st century temperature so far doesn&#039;t regard CO2 to be a major climate driver (RAS).

He might like to check out Mike&#039;s AGU trick too wrt &quot;Isn’t cherry picky wonderful?&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken&#8217;s reasoning being based on the assumption that GCM&#8217;s are all realisticallly parameterized. Given the 21st century GO from them he might like to think about the possibility of GI. And the fact that one of only two institutions to actually mimic 21st century temperature so far doesn&#8217;t regard CO2 to be a major climate driver (RAS).</p>
<p>He might like to check out Mike&#8217;s AGU trick too wrt &#8220;Isn’t cherry picky wonderful?&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/02/cooking-up-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-177145</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 22:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Ken Perrott who links to this comment via his profound new post Climate Change is not Simple
http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/climate-change-is-not-simple/

Really? So why did you link to a comment about time series analysis Ken?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Ken Perrott who links to this comment via his profound new post Climate Change is not Simple<br />
<a href="http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/climate-change-is-not-simple/" rel="nofollow">http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/climate-change-is-not-simple/</a></p>
<p>Really? So why did you link to a comment about time series analysis Ken?</p>
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		<title>By: Climate change is not simple &#124; Open Parachute</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/02/cooking-up-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-176967</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate change is not simple &#124; Open Parachute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 01:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we get this sort of thing being promoted by climate change deniers (thanks to Andy S for this one). Didn&#8217;t someone say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing? And isn&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we get this sort of thing being promoted by climate change deniers (thanks to Andy S for this one). Didn&#8217;t someone say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing? And isn&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Treadgold</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/02/cooking-up-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-176955</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The number of comments here is impressive, however, rather too many of them are off-topic.

So we now have a new Open Threads &#124; Controversy and scandal page, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/open-threads/climate/controversy-and-scandal/skeptical-science/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Skeptical Science&lt;/a&gt;&quot;, for discussion of events at that blog.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number of comments here is impressive, however, rather too many of them are off-topic.</p>
<p>So we now have a new Open Threads | Controversy and scandal page, &#8220;<a href="http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/open-threads/climate/controversy-and-scandal/skeptical-science/" rel="nofollow">Skeptical Science</a>&#8220;, for discussion of events at that blog.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/02/cooking-up-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-176951</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 23:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SkS comment deletion seems to be a real-time activity.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
#9 Foxgoose at 09:07 AM on 3 March, 2013

Hmm ........ my earlier polite, on topic post has disappeared without trace and the remaining posts have been renumbered.

Has SkS got a new moderation policy since I last visited?


If so - what is it?

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.skepticalscience.com/news.php?n=1900

Watch this one disappear too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SkS comment deletion seems to be a real-time activity.</p>
<blockquote><p>
#9 Foxgoose at 09:07 AM on 3 March, 2013</p>
<p>Hmm &#8230;&#8230;.. my earlier polite, on topic post has disappeared without trace and the remaining posts have been renumbered.</p>
<p>Has SkS got a new moderation policy since I last visited?</p>
<p>If so &#8211; what is it?</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/news.php?n=1900" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepticalscience.com/news.php?n=1900</a></p>
<p>Watch this one disappear too.</p>
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		<title>By: Magoo</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2013/02/cooking-up-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-176908</link>
		<dc:creator>Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 21:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skeptical science is a joke. They just pulled out of the bloggie awards because they were going to look like idiots when their sole pro AGW blog was going to lose to the sceptic websites whose vote was split 4 ways. Surely one pro AGW website with it&#039;s majority consensus could beat a minority split 4 ways ... apparently not:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/01/friday-funny-john-cooks-withdrawal-symptoms/

They&#039;ve lost the war - there&#039;s been no warming in 16 years (confirmed by the IPCC and the Met Office), no tropospheric hot spot, no positive feedback from water vapour, sea level rises that are slowing down instead of speeding up, an impotent renewal of Kyoto, etc.

Most people will just move on when they&#039;re proven to be wrong on so many levels, but those who&#039;ve placed so much faith on such blatantly flawed science are going be exposed as the fools that they are when they have to admit they were wrong. In a vain attempt to avoid this inevitable outcome they lie, and attack those who expose their flawed science and lies. Character assassination is all that&#039;s left for them. If they had any evidence they wouldn&#039;t need to attack people, which just further reinforces the fact that they don&#039;t actually have any evidence. Just personal attacks and lies. I&#039;d be tempted to feel a touch of pity for those who will inevitably  fall victim to their fictional delusions, but their personal attacks and viciousness makes it a bit hard to show any sympathy. Best to avoid their snake pit blogs and live in the real world with the empirical evidence is my philosophy - you can&#039;t argue with a sick mind after all.

Speaking of lies, have you seen Climate Audit&#039;s latest on &#039;Mike&#039;s AGU Trick&#039;? The smell of desperation by the AGW crowd is rising to the level of a rotting corpse.

http://climateaudit.org/2013/03/02/mikes-agu-trick/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skeptical science is a joke. They just pulled out of the bloggie awards because they were going to look like idiots when their sole pro AGW blog was going to lose to the sceptic websites whose vote was split 4 ways. Surely one pro AGW website with it&#8217;s majority consensus could beat a minority split 4 ways &#8230; apparently not:</p>
<p><a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/01/friday-funny-john-cooks-withdrawal-symptoms/" rel="nofollow">http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/01/friday-funny-john-cooks-withdrawal-symptoms/</a></p>
<p>They&#8217;ve lost the war &#8211; there&#8217;s been no warming in 16 years (confirmed by the IPCC and the Met Office), no tropospheric hot spot, no positive feedback from water vapour, sea level rises that are slowing down instead of speeding up, an impotent renewal of Kyoto, etc.</p>
<p>Most people will just move on when they&#8217;re proven to be wrong on so many levels, but those who&#8217;ve placed so much faith on such blatantly flawed science are going be exposed as the fools that they are when they have to admit they were wrong. In a vain attempt to avoid this inevitable outcome they lie, and attack those who expose their flawed science and lies. Character assassination is all that&#8217;s left for them. If they had any evidence they wouldn&#8217;t need to attack people, which just further reinforces the fact that they don&#8217;t actually have any evidence. Just personal attacks and lies. I&#8217;d be tempted to feel a touch of pity for those who will inevitably  fall victim to their fictional delusions, but their personal attacks and viciousness makes it a bit hard to show any sympathy. Best to avoid their snake pit blogs and live in the real world with the empirical evidence is my philosophy &#8211; you can&#8217;t argue with a sick mind after all.</p>
<p>Speaking of lies, have you seen Climate Audit&#8217;s latest on &#8216;Mike&#8217;s AGU Trick&#8217;? The smell of desperation by the AGW crowd is rising to the level of a rotting corpse.</p>
<p><a href="http://climateaudit.org/2013/03/02/mikes-agu-trick/" rel="nofollow">http://climateaudit.org/2013/03/02/mikes-agu-trick/</a></p>
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