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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>Brash trash of ETS</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/brash-trash-of-ets/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monday, 21 November, 2011 &#8211; 12:40 Campaign Speech on the Emissions Trading Scheme Don Brash, Leader ACT New Zealand Bureta Park Inn, Tauranga Monday 21 November 2011 My talk today is about the economy. It&#8217;s one of three that I&#8217;ll be giving this week as New Zealanders close in on the polls. This particular one [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Liquid fossil fuels and climate change</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/10/liquid-fossil-fuels-and-climate-change/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/10/liquid-fossil-fuels-and-climate-change/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 01:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[How much does our ETS increase petrol &#038; power prices? The following passage is from our government&#8217;s web page explaining the ETS. It&#8217;s only a short piece, but there are numerous examples of non-sequiturs, or illogical derivations from the previous statement. Anyone convinced it&#8217;s based on science or logic? Anyone at all? The government reasons* [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>34</slash:comments>
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		<title>Carbon credits drive brutal land grab</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/09/carbon-credits-drive-brutal-land-grab/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/09/carbon-credits-drive-brutal-land-grab/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 00:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Carbon trading]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Oxfam]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[An evicted woman showed proof of her family&#8217;s land ownership. Ugandans left homeless, child dies The UN&#8217;s ingenious global warming money-making scheme, called the clean development mechanism (CDM), was predicted to lead to abuse and fraud. The essence of the CDM is built around trust, so you just know it&#8217;s headed for disaster. Another scandal [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>18</slash:comments>
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		<title>Forget global warming &#8212; Kyoto is about trade</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/09/forget-global-warming-kyoto-is-about-trade/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/09/forget-global-warming-kyoto-is-about-trade/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Guest author</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[ETS]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Kyoto Protocol]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=11447</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Global agreement transcends environment. &#8211; by Barry Brill, Chairman of the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition When the Kyoto Protocol was signed in 1997, the base year for calculating emissions was back-dated to 1990. They knew then that the ratification process would take many years (it was actually completed in 2005), so why did it [...]]]></description>
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		<title>False commodity, false trades, false climate cure</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/false-commodity-false-trades-false-climate-cure/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/false-commodity-false-trades-false-climate-cure/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 05:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[ETS]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carbon trading: Sell a product you don&#8217;t have and can&#8217;t deliver to a buyer who doesn&#8217;t want it. That is the very definition of easy money, yet the NZ Government has proposed that process and legalised it in what they call the &#8220;Emissions Trading Scheme.&#8221; Though they created it to &#8220;fight climate change&#8221; they now [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>8</slash:comments>
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		<title>Pyramid of fraud</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/pyramid-of-fraud/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/12/pyramid-of-fraud/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 07:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Guest author</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[An ancient pyramid makes you think. by Viv Forbes 20th December 2010 One of the fastest growing industries in the world is based on a pyramid of frauds and its inevitable collapse will be worse than the sub-prime crash. The Global Warming Industry is now fed by billions of dollars from western taxpayers and consumers. [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>10</slash:comments>
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		<title>Is Gore&#8217;s darling carbon exchange dead or what?</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/11/is-gores-darling-carbon-exchange-dead-or-what/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/11/is-gores-darling-carbon-exchange-dead-or-what/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Carbon trading]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Al Gore]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=7422</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Hell now, y&#8217;all didn&#8217;t take me seriously on that li&#8217;l ol&#8217; carbon tradin&#8217; thang, didya?Well, gosh-darn and gee-willikers! UPDATE 15 November: see end of post Is it goodbye to carbon raids trades? A story sweeping through blogdom announces the end of the Chicago Carbon Exchange and its carbon trading in the wake of a totally [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>5</slash:comments>
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		<title>Fraud epidemic destroys trust in &#8220;carbon&#8221; trade</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/05/fraud-epidemic-destroys-trust-in-carbon-trade/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/05/fraud-epidemic-destroys-trust-in-carbon-trade/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 00:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Carbon dioxide]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Carbon trading]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[ETS]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=5296</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[A suit in handcuffs. Only the educated, trusted men can engage in theft on this grand scale &#8212; &#163;156 million! This story concerns GST fraud (called VAT in Europe) but there are easier scams occurring in the carbon trading field, based on the simple fact that the only thing being sold is thin air. Actually, [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Carbon trading is not about the climate</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/01/carbon-trading-is-not-about-the-climate/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/01/carbon-trading-is-not-about-the-climate/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Carbon trading]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=3144</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[This is a picture of steam. Steam is water vapour and unrelated to carbon dioxide, but we cannot see carbon dioxide, so steam is more interesting to look at. In a similar vein, carbon trading does not trade in carbon, which is black and dirty, unless it is a diamond and glorious. No, carbon trading [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
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		<title>Carbon bribery and corruption</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/01/carbon-bribery-and-corruption/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/01/carbon-bribery-and-corruption/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Guest author</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Carbon trading]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guest post by Viv Forbes, Chairman, Carbon Sense Coalition. The Carbon Sense Coalition today called for an end to the practice of governments trying to buy support for their failing Ration-N-Tax Scheme using tax money raised in an underhand fashion from the same people. The Chairman of Carbon Sense, Mr Viv Forbes, said that since [...]]]></description>
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