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	<title>Climate Conversation Group &#187; Global warming</title>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t lie to me Nick Smith — 1</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/07/dont-lie-to-me-nick-smith-%e2%80%94-1/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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Don&#8217;t lie to me.

A CCG reader reported on Nick Smith&#8217;s presentation on the ETS last Tuesday (I&#8217;m not sure where, as I couldn&#8217;t see a Tuesday meeting in his published schedule) and mentioned his use of a combined CO2/temperature graph showing a good correlation (h/t to Bulaman). He mentioned its resemblance to the famous hockey [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Gluckman stumbles, Part 2 &#8211; Sludge</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/07/gluckman-stumbles-part-2-sludge/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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Lies are often dressed up as truth. Yet even with the truth in ruins, we can still get lucky and stumble upon it.

UPDATE 18 July &#8211; see end (Royal Society)
This is the second instalment of a review of Professor Sir Peter Gluckman&#8217;s speech of 9 June, entitled Integrity in Science: Implications from and for the [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Gluckman stumbles on the truth</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/07/gluckman-stumbles-on-the-truth/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/07/gluckman-stumbles-on-the-truth/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 05:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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Truth lies in lies and lies lie in truth, so in the climate fiasco, what is the truth, which the lies? Perhaps the truth even lies in ruins, but in searching we can get lucky and stumble on it.

Our quite new Chief Science Advisor, Professor Sir Peter Gluckman, addresses scepticism towards global warming. But he [...]]]></description>
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		<title>NZ ETS missing its target</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/nz-ets-missing-its-target/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/nz-ets-missing-its-target/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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The Carbon Challenge. Whether you believe in dangerous AGW or not, this book presents strong reasons to delay, disable or destroy the ETS. The danger is that warmists will want to strengthen it, ignoring our Chief Scientific Advisor, Professor Sir Peter Gluckman, who says there is no scientific reason for having an ETS, no matter [...]]]></description>
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		<title>PM&#8217;s Chief Science Adviser must change &#8212; or go</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/pms-chief-science-adviser-must-change-or-go/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/pms-chief-science-adviser-must-change-or-go/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 04:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Guest author</dc:creator>
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Professor Sir Peter Gluckman, the Prime Minister&#8217;s Chief Science Advisor.

Here is a statement issued yesterday by Terry Dunleavy, Hon Secretary of the NZ Climate Science Coalition.
UPDATE 21 June: see end of post
Prime Minister John Key has been asked by a former National Party activist either to rein in his Chief Science Adviser, Professor Sir Peter [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Climate scepticism attracting powerful friends</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/climate-scepticism-attracting-powerful-friends/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/climate-scepticism-attracting-powerful-friends/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 04:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Guest author</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Global warming]]></category>
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The United States Senate meets in the Senate side of the Capitol Building in Washington, DC &#8212; to the left of this splendid rotunda.

From the SPPI site comes a remarkable statement from a US Senator reaffirming the primacy of science in the search for truth and emphasising that between the scientific and political arms of [...]]]></description>
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		<title>When will our bloody journalists wake up?</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/when-will-our-bloody-journalists-wake-up/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/when-will-our-bloody-journalists-wake-up/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Disproving AGW]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[ETS]]></category>
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The eyes of New Zealand mainstream journalists, in print and broadcasting, are deliberately out of action. It is a strange event of mass delusion.

How obvious must the lack of credibility in AGW become before New Zealand&#8217;s so-called journalists wake up to it?
Their disconnection from reality now transcends mere embarrassment for the onlookers; it has become [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Gluckman &#8212; great baby doctor but no climate scientist</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/gluckman-great-baby-doctor-but-no-climate-scientist/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/gluckman-great-baby-doctor-but-no-climate-scientist/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ODT reports Professor Sir Peter Gluckman&#8217;s speech last night (you&#8217;ll remember him, he&#8217;s the PM&#8217;s chief science advisor).
As expected, the speech seems to have been mainly waffle with few new facts or arguments. 
However, the Professor informs us that New Zealand beech trees and swallows are feeling the heat. This is despite Phil Jones&#8217; [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Public debate on climate change at last</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/05/public-debate-on-climate-change-at-last/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/05/public-debate-on-climate-change-at-last/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 05:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[

John Key and Kevin Rudd walking together up the garden path.

I&#8217;m snowed under with work, but even if I cannot do this remarkable event justice with a full report, neither can I continue to ignore it. It must be recorded and acknowledged and praised and have thanks given for it. I will expand the account [...]]]></description>
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		<title>In fact we are overcome</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/05/in-fact-we-are-overcome/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/05/in-fact-we-are-overcome/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 06:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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The end of the world, poetically speaking.

Gareth Renowden of Hot Topic, famed as much for truffle hunting as end-of-the-world prophecy, has just celebrated his 25th wedding anniversary.
Congratulations. It cannot have been easy.
His latest post reports that while celebrating that significant marriage milestone in Sydney the other day he found this little poem addressed to insensitive [...]]]></description>
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