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	<title>Climate Conversation Group &#187; NZ Herald</title>
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	<description>Taking the heat out of global warming</description>
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		<title>Rudman offensive but NZ temp record dubious</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/09/rudman-offensive-but-nz-temp-record-dubious/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/09/rudman-offensive-but-nz-temp-record-dubious/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 03:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Herald]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Climate Conversation Group]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=6453</guid>
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A letter sent to the NZ Herald on 25 August that remains unpublished.
Sir,
In &#8220;Exercise degrees of common sense&#8220;, on Wednesday August 18, Brian Rudman loses his journalistic poise and jeers gracelessly at the &#8220;flat-earth&#8221; members of the NZ Climate Science Coalition.
When he asserts that they deny &#8220;man-made global warming&#8221; he is dead wrong. He is [...]]]></description>
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		<title>NZ ETS missing its target</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/nz-ets-missing-its-target/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/nz-ets-missing-its-target/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[ETS]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Economics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Global warming]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Politics]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=5848</guid>
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The Carbon Challenge. Whether you believe in dangerous AGW or not, this book presents strong reasons to delay, disable or destroy the ETS. The danger is that warmists will want to strengthen it, ignoring our Chief Scientific Advisor, Professor Sir Peter Gluckman, who says there is no scientific reason for having an ETS, no matter [...]]]></description>
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		<title>When will our bloody journalists wake up?</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/when-will-our-bloody-journalists-wake-up/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/when-will-our-bloody-journalists-wake-up/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Disproving AGW]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[ETS]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Global warming]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[NZ Herald]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Carbon trading]]></category>

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The eyes of New Zealand mainstream journalists, in print and broadcasting, are deliberately out of action. It is a strange event of mass delusion.

How obvious must the lack of credibility in AGW become before New Zealand&#8217;s so-called journalists wake up to it?
Their disconnection from reality now transcends mere embarrassment for the onlookers; it has become [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Gluckman &#8212; great baby doctor but no climate scientist</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/gluckman-great-baby-doctor-but-no-climate-scientist/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/06/gluckman-great-baby-doctor-but-no-climate-scientist/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Disproving AGW]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Global warming]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[NZ Herald]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[What is the evidence]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=5707</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The ODT reports Professor Sir Peter Gluckman&#8217;s speech last night (you&#8217;ll remember him, he&#8217;s the PM&#8217;s chief science advisor).
As expected, the speech seems to have been mainly waffle with few new facts or arguments. 
However, the Professor informs us that New Zealand beech trees and swallows are feeling the heat. This is despite Phil Jones&#8217; [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Please listen to us Mr Key</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/04/please-listen-to-us-mr-key/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/04/please-listen-to-us-mr-key/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=5149</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[It is significant that there are so many voices raised against the ETS.


A cartoon lampooning the ETS. It deserves all the lampooning it gets. Click to see legible text for greater understanding.

Rodney Hide confirms this, saying that he has never received such a high level of public support on any other issue. He says Kiwis [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Humans to blame for climate change. Yeah, right.</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/03/humans-to-blame-for-climate-change-yeah-right/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/03/humans-to-blame-for-climate-change-yeah-right/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Climate research]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Disproving AGW]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Global warming]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Journalism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[NZ Herald]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[What is the evidence]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=4461</guid>
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The Holy Bible, once widely considered the word of God. A new scripture has arisen in the name of &#8220;The Environment&#8221; claiming it has the right to avoid change. Though Nature has constantly changed the environment and always will, the new scripture hectors us to spend a lot of time and money to ensure that [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
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		<title>Global warming first: oxygen involved!</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/03/global-warming-first-oxygen-involved/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2010/03/global-warming-first-oxygen-involved/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[NZ Herald]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Oceans]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Glaciers]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Global warming]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Polar regions]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Sea ice]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=4375</guid>
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The mighty Merz Glacier. When sea ice fills this area after a piece is knocked off and floats away, why and how is the freezing of the water influenced?

A story in the NZ Herald a few days ago talked about giant Antarctic icebergs:
A massive iceberg struck Antarctica, dislodging another giant block of ice from a [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Flourish commerce, and let the country live</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2009/12/flourish-commerce-and-let-the-country-live/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2009/12/flourish-commerce-and-let-the-country-live/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Disproving AGW]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[ETS]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Economics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Global warming]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=2329</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[UPDATE: 1 Jan 2010. I found the &#8220;flourish commerce&#8221; phrase used by Pears Soap, certainly a more salubrious context than the one I knew it from, but this is the only image I could locate. It&#8217;s not legible, but it is there (the evidence is overwhelming; 48,000 national science associations can&#8217;t be wrong).

The inside of [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Humour us &#8212; what was the evidence, again?</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2009/12/humour-us-what-was-the-evidence-again/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2009/12/humour-us-what-was-the-evidence-again/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Alarmists]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Global warming]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NZ Herald on Saturday ran an Associated Press story headlined Global warming a tough sell for human psyche. The reporter finds experts to say how hard it is for people to accept man-made global warming (although the reporter doesn&#8217;t refer to acceptance, he calls it getting &#8220;excited&#8221;).
So the difficulty in getting people to believe [...]]]></description>
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		<title>NIWA&#8217;s obfuscation unequivocal &#8212; it&#8217;s worse than we thought</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2009/12/niwas-obfuscation-unequivocal-its-worse-than-we-thought/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2009/12/niwas-obfuscation-unequivocal-its-worse-than-we-thought/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Climate Conversation Group]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Global temperature]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Global warming]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[NIWA]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard Treadgold, joint CCG – NZCSC project spokesman
NIWA have published misleading material on their web site and seem to have advised the Minister for Climate Change Issues to give evasive answers to questions in the Parliament.
For those unfamiliar with the story: NIWA keeps raw data for the national NZ temperature record and makes it available [...]]]></description>
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