Climate Conversation Group

Taking the heat out of global warming

For the first time in history, people shouting “the end is nigh” are somehow
the sane ones, while those of us who say it is not are now the lunatics.

  • Home
  • Newsletter
  • Opinion polls
    • SckSckSck
    • Your view of CO2
    • Collective noun for icebergs
  • News releases
    • February 8, 2010
  • Climate Realists
    • Newsletter #6 11 Feb 2010
  • Carbon Sense
    • Newsletter Feb 15, 2010
  • Files
    • Wind turbine failures
  • About
    • New address
  • Contact

Your view of CO2

Vote now in our poll, below

If humanity influences the climate, then the mechanism involves carbon dioxide. There’s nothing else we do that scientists have said might affect the temperature or any other feature of the weather.

But could carbon dioxide dominate the climate? It certainly affects the climate, through raising the temperature a bit — that much is non-controversial. Measuring the temperature increase as it’s introduced to the atmosphere is problematic, but it appears as though the first 120 ppmv has the most effect, about 2.3°C; the next 267 ppmv (more than doubling it) adds less than 0.5°C.

Calculations show that doubling CO2 again, to about 800 ppmv, would add another 0.5°C, but at the current rate of increase it won’t get to that level until 2255.

Some people say the greenhouse effect of CO2 is too small to dominate the climate (it has much less influence than water vapour), while others say that, like a poison in the body, you don’t need much to have a catastrophic effect.

What do you think? Does CO2 dominate the climate?

Vote here

If the voting buttons are absent, you have already voted (or someone on that machine has).

Click Here for PollOnline Survey
| Website Polls
| Email Marketing

| Crowdsourcing Software
View MicroPoll

To comment on the poll, post a comment below.

What now?

Oppose the madness! Spread word of this poll—we’d appreciate your help with that; please tell people you know and email them this link to the poll to come here to vote.

If you have a web site, please consider using this link to our poll. If you have any questions about handling these links, flick me an email to convenor [at] climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz.

Any of that will make a difference. And you’ll be a blimmin’ hero!

Thanks!

Richard Treadgold

Convenor

Ostrich

What do you think? Huh?

Comments rss
Comments rss
Trackback
Trackback

6 Responses to “Your view of CO2”

  1. David du Toit says:
    February 12, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Ha ha ha!

    Your poll only registers NO votes – maybe it even registers YES votes as NO votes!

    What a flippen disgrace – fabricating/manipulating evidence to serve your ideology.

    Reply
    • Richard says:
      February 12, 2010 at 11:52 pm

      Hi David,

      You’re quick to make assumptions, but you are wrong. We have no ideology but truth.

      I can assure there’s no trickery involved, as we don’t host the poll, it’s done offsite by a third party. We have no control over it.

      There is a “no” vote registered now. It is the first one. Perhaps that is your vote. Have another look. When you reload the page the updated voting results will be visible.

      If you’re still unhappy, please leave another comment.

      Thank you for visiting. Perhaps you can record your opinions on one of the articles.

      Cheers,
      Richard Treadgold.

      Reply
  2. G/S. Williams says:
    February 24, 2010 at 8:46 am

    Hi, Richard,

    Regarding your polls, referring to the iceberg one, what about naming a group of icebergs as “a melt of icebergs”; after all, once they have broken off whatever they will have started to melt.

    Keep up the good work.
    GSW

    Reply
    • Richard says:
      February 24, 2010 at 9:31 am

      Hi G/S,

      Yes, I agree it’s a good candidate. “Melt” is one of the options in our poll, go ahead and vote for it if you wish.

      Richard.

      Reply
  3. Barry Brill says:
    February 24, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    Richard – a small challenge on one point. You say that CO2 atmospheric concentration will reach 800ppm by 2255 “at the current rate of increase”.

    But the current rate won’t continue. It’s quite closely correlated with global population – which demographers tell us will reach a maximum of nearly 9 billion by about 2050, then reduce to 7.5 billion by 2100. So, on this basis alone, the rate of increase will reduce in 40 years and keep going down thereafter.

    Then the second greatest contributor to the rate increase is “carbon intensity”. China says they will reduce theirs by at least 45% within 10 years, and India is expecting to do almost as well. These are the 2 largest future emitters.

    The G20 and others have stated that they don’t want the current level of 285ppm to rise above 350ppm during the next century. On any reasonable set of forecasts, the world will meet that target very comfortably.

    Reply
    • Richard says:
      February 24, 2010 at 1:31 pm

      Excellent news, Barry, thank you! I am pleased to be corrected on these figures, since they were causing some anxiety — distant, but anxiety nonetheless.

      Reply

Leave a Reply

Click here to cancel reply.

 

Thanks to WordShine for hosting our site. Professional editing services and academic editing — WordShine for polished writing.
What's your opinion?
sckscksck — is the earth warming dangerously from human activities?
Your view of CO2 — does CO2 dominate the climate?
Exercise your word skills — what's the best collective noun for icebergs?
Click to get your own widget

Interested in oil prices?

Scroll down to see a nifty little widget that graphs oil prices back five years.

Recent Posts

  • STOP PRESS: Wellington “altitude fix” was a lie – NIWA
  • NZ temperature graph doesn’t meet proper standards
  • Humans to blame for climate change. Yeah, right.
  • NIWA not trusted
  • NIWA thinks OI Act “doesn’t apply to us”
  • STOP PRESS: NIWA cleans web site
  • Perrott pouts a porky
  • NIWA ignores our questions
  • Global warming first: oxygen involved!
  • NIWA breaks promises, should apologise
  • Odd numbers
  • Suspicious warming trend proof of bias?
  • NIWA admits deleting vital climate files
  • Salinger & NIWA all at sea over temperature trends
  • Windmills increase CO2, pollution & costs

Latest comments

  • ray on Humans to blame for climate change. Yeah, right.
  • Climate Conversation Group »  Humans to blame for climate change!  Yeah, right.  on Clouding the issue
  • Climate Conversation Group » NIWA ignores our questions on NIWA squirms, but agrees to release adjustments
  • Climate Conversation Group » NIWA breaks promises, should apologise on NIWA loses, opts for fresh start
  • Climate Conversation Group » NIWA breaks promises, should apologise on NIWA bows at last to pressure, but feels ‘insulted’
  • Richard on Suspended at Hot Topic!
  • Sam Vilain on Suspended at Hot Topic!
  • Sorry seems to be the hardest word — Hot Topic on Salinger & NIWA all at sea over temperature trends
  • Sorry seems to be the hardest word — Hot Topic on Apologise? Why?
  • Richard on Salinger & NIWA all at sea over temperature trends
  • Ken on Salinger & NIWA all at sea over temperature trends
  • Richard on Salinger & NIWA all at sea over temperature trends
  • Ken on Salinger & NIWA all at sea over temperature trends
  • Richard on Salinger & NIWA all at sea over temperature trends
  • Rodney Hide on Salinger & NIWA all at sea over temperature trends

Admin

  • Log in
  • Entries RSS
  • Comments RSS
  • WordPress.org

Tags

Activists Administration AGW Air temperature Australia Carbon dioxide Carbon footprint Carbon Sense Carbon trading Climate Conversation Group Climate profiteering Climate research Climate Science Climate Skeptic Clouds CRU leak Data quality Disproving AGW Energy supply environment ETS GHGs Glaciers Global warming Hot Topic Humour Injustice IPCC Joanne Nova Michael Mann New Zealand NIWA NZCSC NZ emissions NZ Herald Peter Spencer Polar regions Power generation Rajendra Pachauri Rodney Hide Roy Spencer Science bias UK Watts Up With That Wind turbines

Categories

Climate change links

  • Carbon Sense Coalition
  • Climate Audit—a science blog
  • Climate Debate Daily
  • Climate Depot
  • Global warming at a glance
  • NZ Climate Science Coalition
  • Watts Up With That

 

March 2010
M T W T F S S
« Feb    
1234567
891011121314
15161718192021
22232425262728
293031  

Blog stats

hits since August 2008

Previous posts

Oil price trends

 
 

"Your word is no longer enough, sir; you must give evidence. Without it, why should we bear you? If it is the least you give, it is all you have."

rss Comments rss valid xhtml 1.1 design by jide powered by Wordpress get firefox