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		<title>Brash trash of ETS</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/brash-trash-of-ets/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Carbon trading]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monday, 21 November, 2011 &#8211; 12:40 Campaign Speech on the Emissions Trading Scheme Don Brash, Leader ACT New Zealand Bureta Park Inn, Tauranga Monday 21 November 2011 My talk today is about the economy. It&#8217;s one of three that I&#8217;ll be giving this week as New Zealanders close in on the polls. This particular one [...]]]></description>
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		<title>ETS threatened by carbon price collapse</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/11/ets-threatened-by-carbon-price-collapse/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 02:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=11974</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[For those hoping our ETS will stem our emissions by requiring a price for them, the Greens have got it badly wrong. The financiers won&#8217;t get rich, neither will the Earth become cool, because the price is collapsing here, too. First Europe (two or three times!) and now New Zealand. When will the government refund [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>11</slash:comments>
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		<title>Liquid fossil fuels and climate change</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/10/liquid-fossil-fuels-and-climate-change/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/10/liquid-fossil-fuels-and-climate-change/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 01:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[ETS]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=11655</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[How much does our ETS increase petrol &#038; power prices? The following passage is from our government&#8217;s web page explaining the ETS. It&#8217;s only a short piece, but there are numerous examples of non-sequiturs, or illogical derivations from the previous statement. Anyone convinced it&#8217;s based on science or logic? Anyone at all? The government reasons* [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>34</slash:comments>
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		<title>Blame or repair?</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/09/blame-or-repair/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/09/blame-or-repair/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[ETS]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Farming]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=11563</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The Herald today fumes over fumes from farming. There&#8217;s so much in their editorial with which to take issue, but a single point glares out from the page. They say: The whole point of the ETS is that emitters take financial responsibility. The Herald appears to replace concern for the environment with a vindictive crusade [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>12</slash:comments>
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		<title>Suddenly everyone hates farming</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/09/suddenly-everyone-hates-farming/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/09/suddenly-everyone-hates-farming/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 22:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[ETS]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Taxation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Barry Brill]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Farming]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=11462</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Few people admire farming as we once did when we understood where this country&#8217;s wealth was created. On the contrary, farming has come under sustained attack, and from none more strongly than the National Party, once almost a fellowship of farmers and the industry&#8217;s staunchest supporter. Now our formerly admired farmers must tolerate the impending [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>11</slash:comments>
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		<title>Forget global warming &#8212; Kyoto is about trade</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/09/forget-global-warming-kyoto-is-about-trade/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/09/forget-global-warming-kyoto-is-about-trade/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Guest author</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Carbon trading]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[ETS]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Global agreement transcends environment. &#8211; by Barry Brill, Chairman of the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition When the Kyoto Protocol was signed in 1997, the base year for calculating emissions was back-dated to 1990. They knew then that the ratification process would take many years (it was actually completed in 2005), so why did it [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>1</slash:comments>
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		<title>Doubling ETS tax acceptable to Minister but not to Kiwis</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/09/doubling-ets-tax-acceptable-to-minister-but-not-to-kiwis/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/09/doubling-ets-tax-acceptable-to-minister-but-not-to-kiwis/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Nick Smith]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=11431</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Barry Brill&#8217;s sharp analysis brings the ridiculous, unsustainable logic of the Hon Nick Smith under a scrutiny it cannot weather &#8212; and that&#8217;s without even mentioning the absence of scientific support for the theory of dangerous anthropogenic global warming. What warming? What sea level rise? The sooner John Key&#8217;s cabinet realises how Key and Smith [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>4</slash:comments>
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		<title>Will ILUC save our livestock?</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/07/will-iluc-save-our-livestock/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/07/will-iluc-save-our-livestock/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 09:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Guest author</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[ETS]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=10614</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&#8211; by Barry Brill, Chairman of the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition &#8220;Biofuels&#8221; are combustible liquids made from plants. They can replace petrol and diesel in our engines and are extracted from many different types of plants. These biologically-based fuels have long been supported by green activists because when you burn them they only emit [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
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		<title>NZ ETS review under way</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/nz-ets-review-under-way/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/03/nz-ets-review-under-way/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 07:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Treadgold</dc:creator>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/?p=9121</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Barry Brill, OBE, chairman of the NZ Climate Science Coalition, former Minister of Science and Technology and former Minister of Energy, thoughtfully offered the ETS Review Panel some assistance in sorting out the issues. He sent the following letter on 28 February to David Caygill, chairman of the ETS Review Panel. Seeing the sharp Brill [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>9</slash:comments>
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		<title>ETS review just for show</title>
		<link>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/ets-review-just-for-show/</link>
		<comments>http://www.climateconversation.wordshine.co.nz/2011/01/ets-review-just-for-show/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 06:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Guest author</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Gisborne Herald of 12 January, 2011, carried the following letter from my good friend Neil Henderson, founder of Climate Realists, and who has kindly consented to this republication. We might all learn from Neil&#8217;s wonderful political instincts. I could mention that the 23% Neil mentions, by which our present emissions exceed our 1990 emissions, [...]]]></description>
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		<slash:comments>5</slash:comments>
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